We've discussed hosting WikiConference USA in 2016, but someone using an IP went a step further and added Seattle to the list of potential bidders for Wikimania 2016. I understand how scaling up makes sense, especially if we have strong U.W. support and are able to hire an event planner, but the main reason I have not suggested scaling up the event is that we are a young group and we need to grow in a sustainable way; Wikimania is a very large event that may distract us from the kinds of work we have already planned to pursue like forming local partnerships, so I feel that Wikimania would be a more appropriate event for us to host in 2017 or 2018 when we have a firmer foundation and perhaps more numerous local Wikimedians and partners who will assist with coordinating the event. Thoughts?
Pine
While I think that the effort to host WikiConference USA would help Cascadia Wikimedians itself scale up regardless of the year, I also believe that an anonymous edit adding Seattle to the list of Wikimania 2016 bidders is unconscionable without first getting a consensus within the user group. Even with a consensus, there should be no IP posts "volunteering" Seattle, anyway. That's just avoiding taking responsibility.
BTW, does anybody have any thoughts about when & where to have the first Cascadia Wikimedians user group meeting?
Peaceray
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
We've discussed hosting WikiConference USA in 2016, but someone using an IP went a step further and added Seattle to the list of potential bidders for Wikimania 2016. I understand how scaling up makes sense, especially if we have strong U.W. support and are able to hire an event planner, but the main reason I have not suggested scaling up the event is that we are a young group and we need to grow in a sustainable way; Wikimania is a very large event that may distract us from the kinds of work we have already planned to pursue like forming local partnerships, so I feel that Wikimania would be a more appropriate event for us to host in 2017 or 2018 when we have a firmer foundation and perhaps more numerous local Wikimedians and partners who will assist with coordinating the event. Thoughts?
Pine
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I would love to see the conference in Seattle, but only when the time is right. We should not take on this project until we have the stability and capacity to do so. I have been adamant about this, especially when east coast Wikimedians suggest we should host. The truth is, we are not as organized... YET! There is certainly no harm in entertaining the idea, but I think it is in our best interest in grow slowly and smartly rather than bite off more than we can chew.
Jason
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Raymond Leonard < raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com> wrote:
While I think that the effort to host WikiConference USA would help Cascadia Wikimedians itself scale up regardless of the year, I also believe that an anonymous edit adding Seattle to the list of Wikimania 2016 bidders is unconscionable without first getting a consensus within the user group. Even with a consensus, there should be no IP posts "volunteering" Seattle, anyway. That's just avoiding taking responsibility.
BTW, does anybody have any thoughts about when & where to have the first Cascadia Wikimedians user group meeting?
Peaceray
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
We've discussed hosting WikiConference USA in 2016, but someone using an IP went a step further and added Seattle to the list of potential bidders for Wikimania 2016. I understand how scaling up makes sense, especially if we have strong U.W. support and are able to hire an event planner, but the main reason I have not suggested scaling up the event is that we are a young group and we need to grow in a sustainable way; Wikimania is a very large event that may distract us from the kinds of work we have already planned to pursue like forming local partnerships, so I feel that Wikimania would be a more appropriate event for us to host in 2017 or 2018 when we have a firmer foundation and perhaps more numerous local Wikimedians and partners who will assist with coordinating the event. Thoughts?
Pine
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Where was this anonymous edit made? Could someone provide a link?
Jason
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Jason Moore anotherbelieverwp@gmail.com wrote:
I would love to see the conference in Seattle, but only when the time is right. We should not take on this project until we have the stability and capacity to do so. I have been adamant about this, especially when east coast Wikimedians suggest we should host. The truth is, we are not as organized... YET! There is certainly no harm in entertaining the idea, but I think it is in our best interest in grow slowly and smartly rather than bite off more than we can chew.
Jason
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Raymond Leonard < raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com> wrote:
While I think that the effort to host WikiConference USA would help Cascadia Wikimedians itself scale up regardless of the year, I also believe that an anonymous edit adding Seattle to the list of Wikimania 2016 bidders is unconscionable without first getting a consensus within the user group. Even with a consensus, there should be no IP posts "volunteering" Seattle, anyway. That's just avoiding taking responsibility.
BTW, does anybody have any thoughts about when & where to have the first Cascadia Wikimedians user group meeting?
Peaceray
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
We've discussed hosting WikiConference USA in 2016, but someone using an IP went a step further and added Seattle to the list of potential bidders for Wikimania 2016. I understand how scaling up makes sense, especially if we have strong U.W. support and are able to hire an event planner, but the main reason I have not suggested scaling up the event is that we are a young group and we need to grow in a sustainable way; Wikimania is a very large event that may distract us from the kinds of work we have already planned to pursue like forming local partnerships, so I feel that Wikimania would be a more appropriate event for us to host in 2017 or 2018 when we have a firmer foundation and perhaps more numerous local Wikimedians and partners who will assist with coordinating the event. Thoughts?
Pine
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https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids
It sounds like we have consensus that we need to work on our foundation before pursuing a Wikimania bid.
Pine On Sep 21, 2014 1:08 AM, "Jason Moore" anotherbelieverwp@gmail.com wrote:
Where was this anonymous edit made? Could someone provide a link?
Jason
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Jason Moore anotherbelieverwp@gmail.com wrote:
I would love to see the conference in Seattle, but only when the time is right. We should not take on this project until we have the stability and capacity to do so. I have been adamant about this, especially when east coast Wikimedians suggest we should host. The truth is, we are not as organized... YET! There is certainly no harm in entertaining the idea, but I think it is in our best interest in grow slowly and smartly rather than bite off more than we can chew.
Jason
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Raymond Leonard < raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com> wrote:
While I think that the effort to host WikiConference USA would help Cascadia Wikimedians itself scale up regardless of the year, I also believe that an anonymous edit adding Seattle to the list of Wikimania 2016 bidders is unconscionable without first getting a consensus within the user group. Even with a consensus, there should be no IP posts "volunteering" Seattle, anyway. That's just avoiding taking responsibility.
BTW, does anybody have any thoughts about when & where to have the first Cascadia Wikimedians user group meeting?
Peaceray
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
We've discussed hosting WikiConference USA in 2016, but someone using an IP went a step further and added Seattle to the list of potential bidders for Wikimania 2016. I understand how scaling up makes sense, especially if we have strong U.W. support and are able to hire an event planner, but the main reason I have not suggested scaling up the event is that we are a young group and we need to grow in a sustainable way; Wikimania is a very large event that may distract us from the kinds of work we have already planned to pursue like forming local partnerships, so I feel that Wikimania would be a more appropriate event for us to host in 2017 or 2018 when we have a firmer foundation and perhaps more numerous local Wikimedians and partners who will assist with coordinating the event. Thoughts?
Pine
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So I had assumed this was about WikiConference USA, not Wikimania. Needless to say, my comments certainly apply to the latter as well. This year the inaugural WikiConference USA was held in NYC and there are hopes the event will rotate to different regions of the country each year. It would be great to host in the Pacific Northwest at some point in the future, but again, we should do this when we have the capacity. Our time right now is best spent getting established, putting systems in place, recruiting interest and activities, perhaps forming collaborations with a few local institutions, etc. Jason
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids
It sounds like we have consensus that we need to work on our foundation before pursuing a Wikimania bid.
Pine On Sep 21, 2014 1:08 AM, "Jason Moore" anotherbelieverwp@gmail.com wrote:
Where was this anonymous edit made? Could someone provide a link?
Jason
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Jason Moore <anotherbelieverwp@gmail.com
wrote:
I would love to see the conference in Seattle, but only when the time is right. We should not take on this project until we have the stability and capacity to do so. I have been adamant about this, especially when east coast Wikimedians suggest we should host. The truth is, we are not as organized... YET! There is certainly no harm in entertaining the idea, but I think it is in our best interest in grow slowly and smartly rather than bite off more than we can chew.
Jason
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Raymond Leonard < raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com> wrote:
While I think that the effort to host WikiConference USA would help Cascadia Wikimedians itself scale up regardless of the year, I also believe that an anonymous edit adding Seattle to the list of Wikimania 2016 bidders is unconscionable without first getting a consensus within the user group. Even with a consensus, there should be no IP posts "volunteering" Seattle, anyway. That's just avoiding taking responsibility.
BTW, does anybody have any thoughts about when & where to have the first Cascadia Wikimedians user group meeting?
Peaceray
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
We've discussed hosting WikiConference USA in 2016, but someone using an IP went a step further and added Seattle to the list of potential bidders for Wikimania 2016. I understand how scaling up makes sense, especially if we have strong U.W. support and are able to hire an event planner, but the main reason I have not suggested scaling up the event is that we are a young group and we need to grow in a sustainable way; Wikimania is a very large event that may distract us from the kinds of work we have already planned to pursue like forming local partnerships, so I feel that Wikimania would be a more appropriate event for us to host in 2017 or 2018 when we have a firmer foundation and perhaps more numerous local Wikimedians and partners who will assist with coordinating the event. Thoughts?
Pine
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I think Wikiconference USA in 2016 might work. Peaceray and Mako are "in charge" of exploring the feasability. We haven't set a commitment in stone yet, and I feel that we should wait to decide. We can probably wait at least several months. If another group wants to host then that is ok because it's not mission-critical for us to host.
Pine On Sep 21, 2014 9:14 AM, "Jason Moore" anotherbelieverwp@gmail.com wrote:
So I had assumed this was about WikiConference USA, not Wikimania. Needless to say, my comments certainly apply to the latter as well. This year the inaugural WikiConference USA was held in NYC and there are hopes the event will rotate to different regions of the country each year. It would be great to host in the Pacific Northwest at some point in the future, but again, we should do this when we have the capacity. Our time right now is best spent getting established, putting systems in place, recruiting interest and activities, perhaps forming collaborations with a few local institutions, etc. Jason
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids
It sounds like we have consensus that we need to work on our foundation before pursuing a Wikimania bid.
Pine On Sep 21, 2014 1:08 AM, "Jason Moore" anotherbelieverwp@gmail.com wrote:
Where was this anonymous edit made? Could someone provide a link?
Jason
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Jason Moore < anotherbelieverwp@gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to see the conference in Seattle, but only when the time is right. We should not take on this project until we have the stability and capacity to do so. I have been adamant about this, especially when east coast Wikimedians suggest we should host. The truth is, we are not as organized... YET! There is certainly no harm in entertaining the idea, but I think it is in our best interest in grow slowly and smartly rather than bite off more than we can chew.
Jason
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Raymond Leonard < raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com> wrote:
While I think that the effort to host WikiConference USA would help Cascadia Wikimedians itself scale up regardless of the year, I also believe that an anonymous edit adding Seattle to the list of Wikimania 2016 bidders is unconscionable without first getting a consensus within the user group. Even with a consensus, there should be no IP posts "volunteering" Seattle, anyway. That's just avoiding taking responsibility.
BTW, does anybody have any thoughts about when & where to have the first Cascadia Wikimedians user group meeting?
Peaceray
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
We've discussed hosting WikiConference USA in 2016, but someone using an IP went a step further and added Seattle to the list of potential bidders for Wikimania 2016. I understand how scaling up makes sense, especially if we have strong U.W. support and are able to hire an event planner, but the main reason I have not suggested scaling up the event is that we are a young group and we need to grow in a sustainable way; Wikimania is a very large event that may distract us from the kinds of work we have already planned to pursue like forming local partnerships, so I feel that Wikimania would be a more appropriate event for us to host in 2017 or 2018 when we have a firmer foundation and perhaps more numerous local Wikimedians and partners who will assist with coordinating the event. Thoughts?
Pine
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