I attended the United States National Open Street Map conference, State of
the Map, in New York last weekend. There were about 8 OSMers from Seattle
there, and I met with them.
They had proposed hosting their conference in Seattle next year, and I
thought also that the Wikipedia community might like a conference in
Seattle next year, and I was wondering if Open Street Map and Wikipedia
might co-host a conference next year.
I started collecting some ideas in a Google Doc.
user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia
I had a really exciting meeting with Susan Connole of Friends of the
Ballard Locks FOBL today. I got some books and papers outlining the
construction history, and I saw some of the boxes of thousands of old
photos they have. All phases of the construction of the locks, all sorts of
historic events. They have digitized most of the photos, but they don't
have a website yet to upload them to. One solution would be to use
Wikimedia Commons to host all the photos, since its free and permanent, and
comes with the kind of file structure they need to let people access the
The meta data for the photos is on paper tables, so I'm thinking that if we
could use OCR to read the metadata, then create a bridge program to fill in
the data fields for a mass upload of the images. Do we have anyone who
would want to do that kind of project?
Coming along for the drained locks underground tour might be as easy as
signing an injury waiver. It sounds like I just need to stay in touch and
show up on the right day, approximately when the tide is low in the first
weeks of November.
For the August FOBL meeting, they can invite members of the historical
societies in Ballard, Magnolia, Wallingford, etc to come and listen to us
give a recruiting/training new editors presentation. So we should plan
something to present.
There's tons of history to cover on all the public debates over if, when
and where to build the Ballard Locks going back to the 1880s. They had a
number of lawsuits. The project includes the Ship Canal, lowering Lake
Washington, draining the shoreline around Renton, reversing the river flow
around the Duwamish, leaving the Georgetown Steam plant high and dry.
There's so much to write about, and the historical photos are there if we
can go get them. No article yet on Carl S. English, and several other
figures who built the Locks.
And they have a whole room of antique tools and equipment used to build the
locks, giant rivets and rivet guns, tongs, gauges and instruments. It all
needs to be photographed.
That's only the beginning. So we need an outline plan, and we need to
Forwarding because it's so impressive to see Wikipedia exhibited and
photographed this way.
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From: "MZMcBride" <z(a)mzmcbride.com>
Date: Jun 23, 2015 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?
To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>This story about an art exhibit opening in New York on Thursday is pretty
>neat. A Wikipedian has been working for years to create a print version of
>Wikipedia, described as "half utilitarian data visualization project, half
>absurdist poetic gesture." Hopefully we'll have photos of the project on
>Wikimedia Commons soon.
Victor Grigas delivered! :D
Someone also reminded me that xkcd's "What If?" covered a variant of this
topic in "Updating a Printed Wikipedia" <https://what-if.xkcd.com/59/>.
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
Thanks for the read. Forwarding.
On Jun 19, 2015 7:07 AM, "Brian Gerstle" <bgerstle(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Thought some people would find this stream of tweets from Charlie Kindel
> interesting. I'd also recommend perusing his other posts about leadership
> & engineering culture. Here's my take on a few snippets, curious to hear
> your thoughts as well:
> *"the only work that truly matters is that of the engineers"*
> While engineers might be responsible for "actually building things,"
> Charlie himself admits that the quality (and relevance) of our work is
> highly dependent on multiple factors leading up to the first engineer's
> *"left to their own devices, engineers will do two things: 1) the most
> complicated thing, 2) the thing they think is fun"*
> Guilty as charged, but I think engineers who are "sold" on the teams'
> mission are capable of making good decisions about what to work on. Our
> current situation in the Readership vertical is a live experiment on this
> Finally, I wholeheartedly agree that I do my best work when it's crystal
> clear *"who the customer is, where the customer is, why the customer cares,
> why it’s important for the business, and when it’s relevant."*
> Happy reading!
> EN Wikipedia user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian.gerstle
> IRC: bgerstle
> Wikitech-l mailing list
We're going to have a business meeting next Friday, 6/26. We'll meet at the
Starbucks in "The Lodge" portion of Bellevue Square at 6:30 PM.
* CascadiaNow info from Peaceray
* Wikimedia Conference brief overview of Signpost report, discussion of
takeaways for us
* Plans for the remainder of this year, including:
:* Ballard Locks
:* VisualEditor training
* Follow-ups from Brian and Pine about finance, legal & insurance matters
* Budget for the remainder of this year
Is there a way to request a feature to be added to Wikipedia? Is there
an issue tracking system to request new content?
Open source projects often have ticketing/issue tracking systems to tack
feature requests, in addition to developer-contributed features that
include patches. Here's a case where I see a need in the Wikipedia
content, but don't currently have time to address it, and am wondering
if there's any resources to submit this request to, if they have spare
cycles to work on it.
needs a new column that shows if the file system uses UTC or local time
or some other time for it's files.
Below question is a thread from a firmware development mailing list,
UEFI firmware is reporting wrong dates in the UEFI Shell. The Apple
firmware guys are asking:
"I’m guessing more modern filesystems probably store the time in UTC?"
The above Wikipedia Comparison page is very good. If it had this data,
it would be better, and useful in this specific case (and probably other
software, not just below case), so the UEFI apps would get correct file
Unfortunately, I currently don't have time to research all of it at the
moment. Apparently, FAT, CDS (ISO9660), DVDs (OSTA UDF) use local, NTFS
This column needs data on (ZFS, Ext2-Ext4, FreeBSD's current file
systems, BTRFS, Apple HFS+ on-disk formats, and SMB/CIFS and NFS network
protocols), at least, to become useful ... of course data for all FSs
would be best. The data should be in the specs of these file systems, or
the source code of their [cloned] open source implementations, it just
takes a bit of time to track down the data from each FS's spec and
sources. There maybe a few cases where multiple FS implementations
return different TZ values, in which case I'd call that a bug. :-)
I'll try to create this if nobody else does, but probably not for a
while, and only for a half-dozen file systems. Access to live
implementations of these file systems and FS diagnostic tools would also
help, but not sure if that kind of data is useful for Wikipedia references.
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Subject: Re: [edk2] [ShellPkg] I think there is an issue in ls.
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:38:58 -0700
From: Andrew Fish <afish(a)apple.com>
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Carsey, Jaben <jaben.carsey(a)intel.com> wrote:
> I agree, that looks like an issue. Can you submit a patch with this
Sorry don’t have time right now.
> I will put this on the list of issues.
Thanks, I hit this issue in another location and look to see what the
shell did. Since the shell seemed to be doing the wrong thing I decided
to at least report it to the mailing list.
I’m guessing more modern filesystems probably store the time in UTC?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew Fish [mailto:email@example.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:26 PM
>> To: edk2-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: [edk2] [ShellPkg] I think there is an issue in ls.
>> Importance: High
>> Dear ShellPkg maintainer,
>> I think there is an issue with the ls command. It does not use the
>> so it seems it is hard coded to assume that a filesystem stores time
like FAT, in
>> local time. The FAT driver always returns EFI_UNSPECIFIED_TIMEZONE, which
>> implies the values are local time. But what if a filesystem is
storing time in UTC
>> (EFI_TIME.TimeZone == 0)? it seems the current path in the shell assumes
>> EFI_UNSPECIFIED_TIMEZONE (thus all time is local time). I don’t think
>> follows the UEFI spec. I think the correct algorithm is:
>> if FileSystemTime.TimeZone == EFI_UNSPECIFIED_TIMEZONE
>> // This is the current path in the code
>> Assume time is local time, and print it out
>> // This is the missing path.
>> Adjust the FileSystemTime.TimeZone for the System.TimeZone (and
>> System.Daylight), thus display the time in local time.
>> Andrew Fish
>> edk2-devel mailing list
> edk2-devel mailing list
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I'm interested in hearing experienced educators' and researchers' thoughts
about what roles Wikipedia, and Internet-based learning in general, can and
can't do well.
Articles for consideration:
What does Wikipedia education do well, and what doesn't it do well?
Is Wikipedia-based education amplifying the learning of students who are
likely to be from highly resourced schools?
Do we have evidence that Wikipedia based education has outcomes for
students that are similar to, or better than, other kinds of online
How can we offer a service that is widely beneficial for students and
teachers with limited technological resources? Or should we not try because
of the additional challenges?