If we need to acutally build a wiki, I have lots of experience in that area. I've installed several instances of MediaWiki for a variety of purposes. The actual install is quite simple... so if we can think of a decent purpose, then I'd be happy to contribute the labor to actually build the site.
I'm up for a meeting to discuss a project anytime...
Brian Chick Toronto
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:57:43 -0400 From: roux wikiroux@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting? To: Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: a0a123410907162357m3760ffd6r5793f0c3aec6cc2@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
"I'm not sure if they maintain archives, but I do know getting them to GPL previously taken photographs would be a lot more difficult than getting them to release those taken after an election where the members consented. "
I doubt that. The Queen's Printer holds the copyright, so it's really up to them as to how they licence it.
In the same vein, I would be massively interested in getting the Canadian Heraldic Authority to release copyright of coats of arms (or at the very least CoAs of cities, provinces, and the country) so that we may use proper versions legally onwiki. I'd also be interested in having the GG office release copyright of images of Canadian medals and decorations.
The recent release of archived media from the German government could provide a template for Canada to do the same thing.
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2009/7/16 Geoffrey Plourde geo.plrd@yahoo.com:
Depending upon how idiot friendly the server is, and if there is web
access,
I think I might be able to help set up a wiki. Would Wikimedia be willing
to
host the site?
From: Jeffery Nichols arctic.gnome@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:14:55 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
It doesn't have to be a meeting, though I do find that meetings can get quite a bit of work done if enough people show up.? To get the ball rolling on this project, I have posted my two cents about how this site might look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Canada/Wikisource_Canada ? and I encourage everyone to go to that page and tell me what you think Wikisource Canada should be like.
As for the technical side, I don't know much about how to set up a wiki, but I would gladly contribute to paying for some part of the bandwidth until the organization get incorporated or can get a grant from WMF.? Do you have an estimate of how much it costs per size of the size and number of hits?
-Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome)
On 15-Jul-09, at 9:19 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Jeffery Nichols wrote:
If people are interested, I would like to get together in an online meeting to discuss what our first project may be.? I would especially like to hear some ideas from some of the people who say they are interested in WMC but don't want to work on the bylaws.? Before the bylaws can be completed, we need a more specific idea about what we will first do after being established.? I have argued that we should try to set up an online database and gallery of Canadian historical and artistic media, but I would like to hear everyone else's ideas, as well as discuss the logistics of setting up that kind of website. Would current participants and people who have not yet attended a meeting be interested in chatting for an hour or so next week on the topic?? If so, let me know and I'll set a time.
Of course, I'm never interested in online meetings.? They are just not suited to a ponderous person who often pauses before responding to comments.
That said, it's important to remember that Wikipedia was active for more than three years before WMF was incorporated.? In those earliest years Jimbo was footing the bills.
The online database is a great idea.? What's more important than a discussion of possibilities is for individuals to commit to certain projects and tasks. It's fair enough to say, "I'm not interested in writing by-laws," but at the same time is that person committing to something else.? Now it is important for someone to accept personal responsibility for setting up the online database.
Setting up a website is great, and presumably it will employ Mediawiki software.? That takes someone to commit to paying for bandwidth, starting the site at a technical level, and installing the basic software.
Using wikisource.ca for this is OK by me as the current owner of the domain name.? I will raise the point when I'm at Wikimania, and unless more constructive ideas are raised there will make it available in September to someone who wants to start the website.
Ec
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:25:32 -0700 From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting? To: Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 4A60357C.7020607@telus.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Depending upon how idiot friendly the server is, and if there is web access, I think I might be able to help set up a wiki. Would Wikimedia be willing to host the site?
I hope not! This should be on a Canadian server. That would make it subject to Canadian copyright law. We should get into the habit of paying our own way instead of depending on WMF.
Ec.
*From:* Jeffery Nichols arctic.gnome@gmail.com *To:* Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:14:55 AM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
It doesn't have to be a meeting, though I do find that meetings can get quite a bit of work done if enough people show up. To get the ball rolling on this project, I have posted my two cents about how this site might look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Canada/Wikisource_Canada and I encourage everyone to go to that page and tell me what you think Wikisource Canada should be like.
As for the technical side, I don't know much about how to set up a wiki, but I would gladly contribute to paying for some part of the bandwidth until the organization get incorporated or can get a grant from WMF. Do you have an estimate of how much it costs per size of the size and number of hits?
-Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome)
On 15-Jul-09, at 9:19 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Jeffery Nichols wrote:
If people are interested, I would like to get together in an online meeting to discuss what our first project may be. I would especially like to hear some ideas from some of the people who say they are interested in WMC but don't want to work on the bylaws. Before the bylaws can be completed, we need a more specific idea about what we will first do after being established. I have argued that we should try to set up an online database and gallery of Canadian historical and artistic media, but I would like to hear everyone else's ideas, as well as discuss the logistics of setting up that kind of website. Would current participants and people who have not yet attended a meeting be interested in chatting for an hour or so next week on the topic? If so, let me know and I'll set a time.
Of course, I'm never interested in online meetings. They are just not suited to a ponderous person who often pauses before responding to comments.
That said, it's important to remember that Wikipedia was active for more than three years before WMF was incorporated. In those earliest years Jimbo was footing the bills.
The online database is a great idea. What's more important than a discussion of possibilities is for individuals to commit to certain projects and tasks. It's fair enough to say, "I'm not interested in writing by-laws," but at the same time is that person committing to something else. Now it is important for someone to accept personal responsibility for setting up the online database.
Setting up a website is great, and presumably it will employ Mediawiki software. That takes someone to commit to paying for bandwidth, starting the site at a technical level, and installing the basic software.
Using wikisource.ca http://wikisource.ca for this is OK by me as
the current owner of the
domain name. I will raise the point when I'm at Wikimania, and unless more constructive ideas are raised there will make it available in September to someone who wants to start the website.
Ec
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:42:58 -0400 From: roux wikiroux@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting? To: Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: a0a123410907170142g7ef375a1t8c7796abd9b207b8@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Agreed. enwiki: [[User:Roux]] ? wikiroux@gmail.com
2009/7/17 Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net:
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Depending upon how idiot friendly the server is, and if there is web access, I think I might be able to help set up a wiki. Would Wikimedia be willing to host the site?
I hope not! ?This should be on a Canadian server. ?That would make it subject to Canadian copyright law. ?We should get into the habit of paying our own way instead of depending on WMF.
Ec.
*From:* Jeffery Nichols arctic.gnome@gmail.com *To:* Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:14:55 AM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
It doesn't have to be a meeting, though I do find that meetings can get quite a bit of work done if enough people show up. ?To get the ball rolling on this project, I have posted my two cents about how this site might look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Canada/Wikisource_Canada ? and I encourage everyone to go to that page and tell me what you think Wikisource Canada should be like.
As for the technical side, I don't know much about how to set up a wiki, but I would gladly contribute to paying for some part of the bandwidth until the organization get incorporated or can get a grant from WMF. ?Do you have an estimate of how much it costs per size of the size and number of hits?
-Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome)
On 15-Jul-09, at 9:19 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Jeffery Nichols wrote:
If people are interested, I would like to get together in an online meeting to discuss what our first project may be. ?I would especially like to hear some ideas from some of the people who say they are interested in WMC but don't want to work on the bylaws. ?Before the bylaws can be completed, we need a more specific idea about what we will first do after being established. ?I have argued that we should try to set up an online database and gallery of Canadian historical and artistic media, but I would like to hear everyone else's ideas, as well as discuss the logistics of setting up that kind of website. Would current participants and people who have not yet attended a meeting be interested in chatting for an hour or so next week on the topic? ?If so, let me know and I'll set a time.
Of course, I'm never interested in online meetings. ?They are just not suited to a ponderous person who often pauses before responding to comments.
That said, it's important to remember that Wikipedia was active for more than three years before WMF was incorporated. ?In those earliest years Jimbo was footing the bills.
The online database is a great idea. ?What's more important than a discussion of possibilities is for individuals to commit to certain projects and tasks. It's fair enough to say, "I'm not interested in writing by-laws," but at the same time is that person committing to something else. ?Now it is important for someone to accept personal responsibility for setting up the online database.
Setting up a website is great, and presumably it will employ Mediawiki software. ?That takes someone to commit to paying for bandwidth, starting the site at a technical level, and installing the basic software.
Using wikisource.ca http://wikisource.ca for this is OK by me as
the current owner of the
domain name. ?I will raise the point when I'm at Wikimania, and unless more constructive ideas are raised there will make it available in September to someone who wants to start the website.
Ec
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I have extensive experience in this area as well. If you require any assistance please let me know.
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2009/7/17 brian.chick@left-button.com
If we need to acutally build a wiki, I have lots of experience in that area. I've installed several instances of MediaWiki for a variety of purposes. The actual install is quite simple... so if we can think of a decent purpose, then I'd be happy to contribute the labor to actually build the site.
I'm up for a meeting to discuss a project anytime...
Brian Chick Toronto
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- Re: A non-bylaw related meeting? (roux)
- Re: A non-bylaw related meeting? (Ray Saintonge)
- Re: A non-bylaw related meeting? (roux)
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:57:43 -0400 From: roux wikiroux@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting? To: Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: a0a123410907162357m3760ffd6r5793f0c3aec6cc2@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
"I'm not sure if they maintain archives, but I do know getting them to GPL previously taken photographs would be a lot more difficult than getting them to release those taken after an election where the members consented. "
I doubt that. The Queen's Printer holds the copyright, so it's really up to them as to how they licence it.
In the same vein, I would be massively interested in getting the Canadian Heraldic Authority to release copyright of coats of arms (or at the very least CoAs of cities, provinces, and the country) so that we may use proper versions legally onwiki. I'd also be interested in having the GG office release copyright of images of Canadian medals and decorations.
The recent release of archived media from the German government could provide a template for Canada to do the same thing.
enwiki: [[User:Roux]] ? wikiroux@gmail.com
2009/7/16 Geoffrey Plourde geo.plrd@yahoo.com:
Depending upon how idiot friendly the server is, and if there is web
access,
I think I might be able to help set up a wiki. Would Wikimedia be
willing
to
host the site?
From: Jeffery Nichols arctic.gnome@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:14:55 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
It doesn't have to be a meeting, though I do find that meetings can get quite a bit of work done if enough people show up.? To get the ball rolling on this project, I have posted my two cents about how this site might look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Canada/Wikisource_Canada ? and I encourage everyone to go to that page and tell me what you think Wikisource Canada should be like.
As for the technical side, I don't know much about how to set up a wiki, but I would gladly contribute to paying for some part of the bandwidth until the organization get incorporated or can get a grant from WMF.? Do you have an estimate of how much it costs per size of the size and number of hits?
-Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome)
On 15-Jul-09, at 9:19 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Jeffery Nichols wrote:
If people are interested, I would like to get together in an online meeting to discuss what our first project may be.? I would especially like to hear some ideas from some of the people who say they are interested in WMC but don't want to work on the bylaws.? Before the bylaws can be completed, we need a more specific idea about what we will first do after being established.? I have argued that we should try to set up an online database and gallery of Canadian historical and artistic media, but I would like to hear everyone else's ideas, as well as discuss the logistics of setting up that kind of website. Would current participants and people who have not yet attended a meeting be interested in chatting for an hour or so next week on the topic?? If so, let me know and I'll set a time.
Of course, I'm never interested in online meetings.? They are just not suited to a ponderous person who often pauses before responding to comments.
That said, it's important to remember that Wikipedia was active for more than three years before WMF was incorporated.? In those earliest years Jimbo was footing the bills.
The online database is a great idea.? What's more important than a discussion of possibilities is for individuals to commit to certain projects and tasks. It's fair enough to say, "I'm not interested in writing by-laws," but at the same time is that person committing to something else.? Now it is important for someone to accept personal responsibility for setting up the online database.
Setting up a website is great, and presumably it will employ Mediawiki software.? That takes someone to commit to paying for bandwidth, starting the site at a technical level, and installing the basic software.
Using wikisource.ca for this is OK by me as the current owner of the domain name.? I will raise the point when I'm at Wikimania, and unless more constructive ideas are raised there will make it available in September to someone who wants to start the website.
Ec
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:25:32 -0700 From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting? To: Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 4A60357C.7020607@telus.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Depending upon how idiot friendly the server is, and if there is web access, I think I might be able to help set up a wiki. Would Wikimedia be willing to host the site?
I hope not! This should be on a Canadian server. That would make it subject to Canadian copyright law. We should get into the habit of paying our own way instead of depending on WMF.
Ec.
*From:* Jeffery Nichols arctic.gnome@gmail.com *To:* Wikimedia Canada planning list wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:14:55 AM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
It doesn't have to be a meeting, though I do find that meetings can get quite a bit of work done if enough people show up. To get the ball rolling on this project, I have posted my two cents about how this site might look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Canada/Wikisource_Canada and I encourage everyone to go to that page and tell me what you think Wikisource Canada should be like.
As for the technical side, I don't know much about how to set up a wiki, but I would gladly contribute to paying for some part of the bandwidth until the organization get incorporated or can get a grant from WMF. Do you have an estimate of how much it costs per size of the size and number of hits?
-Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome)
On 15-Jul-09, at 9:19 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Jeffery Nichols wrote:
If people are interested, I would like to get together in an online meeting to discuss what our first project may be. I would especially like to hear some ideas from some of the people who say they are interested in WMC but don't want to work on the bylaws. Before the bylaws can be completed, we need a more specific idea about what we will first do after being established. I have argued that we should try to set up an online database and gallery of Canadian historical and artistic media, but I would like to hear everyone else's ideas, as well as discuss the logistics of setting up that kind of website. Would current participants and people who have not yet attended a meeting be interested in chatting for an hour or so next week on the topic? If so, let me know and I'll set a time.
Of course, I'm never interested in online meetings. They are just not suited to a ponderous person who often pauses before responding to comments.
That said, it's important to remember that Wikipedia was active for more than three years before WMF was incorporated. In those earliest years Jimbo was footing the bills.
The online database is a great idea. What's more important than a discussion of possibilities is for individuals to commit to certain projects and tasks. It's fair enough to say, "I'm not interested in writing by-laws," but at the same time is that person committing to something else. Now it is important for someone to accept personal responsibility for setting up the online database.
Setting up a website is great, and presumably it will employ Mediawiki software. That takes someone to commit to paying for bandwidth, starting the site at a technical level, and installing the basic software.
Using wikisource.ca http://wikisource.ca for this is OK by me as
the current owner of the
domain name. I will raise the point when I'm at Wikimania, and unless more constructive ideas are raised there will make it available in September to someone who wants to start the website.
Ec
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Agreed. enwiki: [[User:Roux]] ? wikiroux@gmail.com
2009/7/17 Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net:
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Depending upon how idiot friendly the server is, and if there is web access, I think I might be able to help set up a wiki. Would Wikimedia be willing to host the site?
I hope not! ?This should be on a Canadian server. ?That would make it subject to Canadian copyright law. ?We should get into the habit of paying our own way instead of depending on WMF.
Ec.
*From:* Jeffery Nichols arctic.gnome@gmail.com *To:* Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org
*Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:14:55 AM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
It doesn't have to be a meeting, though I do find that meetings can get quite a bit of work done if enough people show up. ?To get the ball rolling on this project, I have posted my two cents about how this site might look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Canada/Wikisource_Canada ? and I encourage everyone to go to that page and tell me what you think Wikisource Canada should be like.
As for the technical side, I don't know much about how to set up a wiki, but I would gladly contribute to paying for some part of the bandwidth until the organization get incorporated or can get a grant from WMF. ?Do you have an estimate of how much it costs per size of the size and number of hits?
-Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome)
On 15-Jul-09, at 9:19 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Jeffery Nichols wrote:
If people are interested, I would like to get together in an online meeting to discuss what our first project may be. ?I would
especially
like to hear some ideas from some of the people who say they are interested in WMC but don't want to work on the bylaws. ?Before the bylaws can be completed, we need a more specific idea about what we will first do after being established. ?I have argued that we should try to set up an online database and gallery of Canadian historical and artistic media, but I would like to hear everyone else's ideas, as well as discuss the logistics of setting up that kind of website. Would current participants and people who have not yet attended a meeting be interested in chatting for an hour or so next week on the topic? ?If so, let me know and I'll set a time.
Of course, I'm never interested in online meetings. ?They are just
not
suited to a ponderous person who often pauses before responding to comments.
That said, it's important to remember that Wikipedia was active for more than three years before WMF was incorporated. ?In those earliest
years
Jimbo was footing the bills.
The online database is a great idea. ?What's more important than a discussion of possibilities is for individuals to commit to certain projects and tasks. It's fair enough to say, "I'm not interested in writing by-laws," but at the same time is that person committing to something else. ?Now it is important for someone to accept personal responsibility for setting up the online database.
Setting up a website is great, and presumably it will employ
Mediawiki
software. ?That takes someone to commit to paying for bandwidth, starting the site at a technical level, and installing the basic software.
Using wikisource.ca http://wikisource.ca for this is OK by me as
the current owner of the
domain name. ?I will raise the point when I'm at Wikimania, and
unless
more constructive ideas are raised there will make it available in September to someone who wants to start the website.
Ec
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