2009/7/17 <brian.chick@left-button.com>

If we need to acutally build a wiki, I have lots of experience in that area. I've installed several instances of MediaWiki for a variety of purposes. The actual install is quite simple... so if we can think of a decent purpose, then I'd be happy to contribute the labor to actually build the site.

I'm up for a meeting to discuss a project anytime...

Brian Chick
Toronto

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>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:57:43 -0400
>From: roux <wikiroux@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
>To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org>
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>"I'm not sure if they maintain archives, but I do know getting them to
>GPL previously taken photographs would be a lot more difficult than
>getting them to release those taken after an election where the
>members consented. "
>
>I doubt that. The Queen's Printer holds the copyright, so it's really
>up to them as to how they licence it.
>
>In the same vein, I would be massively interested in getting the
>Canadian Heraldic Authority to release copyright of coats of arms (or
>at the very least CoAs of cities, provinces, and the country) so that
>we may use proper versions legally onwiki. I'd also be interested in
>having the GG office release copyright of images of Canadian medals
>and decorations.
>
>The recent release of archived media from the German government could
>provide a template for Canada to do the same thing.
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>2009/7/16 Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd@yahoo.com>:
>> Depending upon how idiot friendly the server is, and if there is web
>access,
>> I think I might be able to help set up a wiki. Would Wikimedia be willing
>to
>> host the site?
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jeffery Nichols <arctic.gnome@gmail.com>
>> To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:14:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
>>
>> It doesn't have to be a meeting, though I do find that meetings can
>> get quite a bit of work done if enough people show up.? To get the
>> ball rolling on this project, I have posted my two cents about how
>> this site might look at
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Canada/Wikisource_Canada
>> ? and I encourage everyone to go to that page and tell me what you
>> think Wikisource Canada should be like.
>>
>> As for the technical side, I don't know much about how to set up a
>> wiki, but I would gladly contribute to paying for some part of the
>> bandwidth until the organization get incorporated or can get a grant
>> from WMF.? Do you have an estimate of how much it costs per size of
>> the size and number of hits?
>>
>> -Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome)
>>
>>
>> On 15-Jul-09, at 9:19 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
>>
>>> Jeffery Nichols wrote:
>>>> If people are interested, I would like to get together in an online
>>>> meeting to discuss what our first project may be.? I would especially
>>>> like to hear some ideas from some of the people who say they are
>>>> interested in WMC but don't want to work on the bylaws.? Before the
>>>> bylaws can be completed, we need a more specific idea about what we
>>>> will first do after being established.? I have argued that we should
>>>> try to set up an online database and gallery of Canadian historical
>>>> and artistic media, but I would like to hear everyone else's ideas,
>>>> as
>>>> well as discuss the logistics of setting up that kind of website.
>>>> Would current participants and people who have not yet attended a
>>>> meeting be interested in chatting for an hour or so next week on the
>>>> topic?? If so, let me know and I'll set a time.
>>> Of course, I'm never interested in online meetings.? They are just not
>>> suited to a ponderous person who often pauses before responding to
>>> comments.
>>>
>>> That said, it's important to remember that Wikipedia was active for
>>> more
>>> than three years before WMF was incorporated.? In those earliest years
>>> Jimbo was footing the bills.
>>>
>>> The online database is a great idea.? What's more important than a
>>> discussion of possibilities is for individuals to commit to certain
>>> projects and tasks. It's fair enough to say, "I'm not interested in
>>> writing by-laws," but at the same time is that person committing to
>>> something else.? Now it is important for someone to accept personal
>>> responsibility for setting up the online database.
>>>
>>> Setting up a website is great, and presumably it will employ Mediawiki
>>> software.? That takes someone to commit to paying for bandwidth,
>>> starting the site at a technical level, and installing the basic
>>> software.
>>>
>>> Using wikisource.ca for this is OK by me as the current owner of the
>>> domain name.? I will raise the point when I'm at Wikimania, and unless
>>> more constructive ideas are raised there will make it available in
>>> September to someone who wants to start the website.
>>>
>>> Ec
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:25:32 -0700
>From: Ray Saintonge <saintonge@telus.net>
>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
>To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org>
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>Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
>> Depending upon how idiot friendly the server is, and if there is web
>> access, I think I might be able to help set up a wiki. Would Wikimedia
>> be willing to host the site?
>
>I hope not! This should be on a Canadian server. That would make it
>subject to Canadian copyright law. We should get into the habit of
>paying our own way instead of depending on WMF.
>
>Ec.
>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Jeffery Nichols <arctic.gnome@gmail.com>
>> *To:* Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:14:55 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
>>
>> It doesn't have to be a meeting, though I do find that meetings can
>> get quite a bit of work done if enough people show up. To get the
>> ball rolling on this project, I have posted my two cents about how
>> this site might look at
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Canada/Wikisource_Canada
>> and I encourage everyone to go to that page and tell me what you
>> think Wikisource Canada should be like.
>>
>> As for the technical side, I don't know much about how to set up a
>> wiki, but I would gladly contribute to paying for some part of the
>> bandwidth until the organization get incorporated or can get a grant
>> from WMF. Do you have an estimate of how much it costs per size of
>> the size and number of hits?
>>
>> -Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome)
>>
>>
>> On 15-Jul-09, at 9:19 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
>>
>> > Jeffery Nichols wrote:
>> >> If people are interested, I would like to get together in an online
>> >> meeting to discuss what our first project may be. I would especially
>> >> like to hear some ideas from some of the people who say they are
>> >> interested in WMC but don't want to work on the bylaws. Before the
>> >> bylaws can be completed, we need a more specific idea about what we
>> >> will first do after being established. I have argued that we should
>> >> try to set up an online database and gallery of Canadian historical
>> >> and artistic media, but I would like to hear everyone else's ideas,
>> >> as
>> >> well as discuss the logistics of setting up that kind of website.
>> >> Would current participants and people who have not yet attended a
>> >> meeting be interested in chatting for an hour or so next week on the
>> >> topic? If so, let me know and I'll set a time.
>> > Of course, I'm never interested in online meetings. They are just not
>> > suited to a ponderous person who often pauses before responding to
>> > comments.
>> >
>> > That said, it's important to remember that Wikipedia was active for
>> > more
>> > than three years before WMF was incorporated. In those earliest years
>> > Jimbo was footing the bills.
>> >
>> > The online database is a great idea. What's more important than a
>> > discussion of possibilities is for individuals to commit to certain
>> > projects and tasks. It's fair enough to say, "I'm not interested in
>> > writing by-laws," but at the same time is that person committing to
>> > something else. Now it is important for someone to accept personal
>> > responsibility for setting up the online database.
>> >
>> > Setting up a website is great, and presumably it will employ Mediawiki
>> > software. That takes someone to commit to paying for bandwidth,
>> > starting the site at a technical level, and installing the basic
>> > software.
>> >
>> > Using wikisource.ca <http://wikisource.ca> for this is OK by me as
>> the current owner of the
>> > domain name. I will raise the point when I'm at Wikimania, and unless
>> > more constructive ideas are raised there will make it available in
>> > September to someone who wants to start the website.
>> >
>> > Ec
>> >
>
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:42:58 -0400
>From: roux <wikiroux@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
>To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org>
>Message-ID:
> <a0a123410907170142g7ef375a1t8c7796abd9b207b8@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
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>Agreed.
>enwiki: [[User:Roux]] ? wikiroux@gmail.com
>
>
>
>2009/7/17 Ray Saintonge <saintonge@telus.net>:
>> Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
>>> Depending upon how idiot friendly the server is, and if there is web
>>> access, I think I might be able to help set up a wiki. Would Wikimedia
>>> be willing to host the site?
>>
>> I hope not! ?This should be on a Canadian server. ?That would make it
>> subject to Canadian copyright law. ?We should get into the habit of
>> paying our own way instead of depending on WMF.
>>
>> Ec.
>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Jeffery Nichols <arctic.gnome@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:14:55 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] A non-bylaw related meeting?
>>>
>>> It doesn't have to be a meeting, though I do find that meetings can
>>> get quite a bit of work done if enough people show up. ?To get the
>>> ball rolling on this project, I have posted my two cents about how
>>> this site might look at
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Canada/Wikisource_Canada
>>> ? and I encourage everyone to go to that page and tell me what you
>>> think Wikisource Canada should be like.
>>>
>>> As for the technical side, I don't know much about how to set up a
>>> wiki, but I would gladly contribute to paying for some part of the
>>> bandwidth until the organization get incorporated or can get a grant
>>> from WMF. ?Do you have an estimate of how much it costs per size of
>>> the size and number of hits?
>>>
>>> -Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15-Jul-09, at 9:19 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
>>>
>>> > Jeffery Nichols wrote:
>>> >> If people are interested, I would like to get together in an online
>>> >> meeting to discuss what our first project may be. ?I would especially
>>> >> like to hear some ideas from some of the people who say they are
>>> >> interested in WMC but don't want to work on the bylaws. ?Before the
>>> >> bylaws can be completed, we need a more specific idea about what we
>>> >> will first do after being established. ?I have argued that we should
>>> >> try to set up an online database and gallery of Canadian historical
>>> >> and artistic media, but I would like to hear everyone else's ideas,
>>> >> as
>>> >> well as discuss the logistics of setting up that kind of website.
>>> >> Would current participants and people who have not yet attended a
>>> >> meeting be interested in chatting for an hour or so next week on the
>>> >> topic? ?If so, let me know and I'll set a time.
>>> > Of course, I'm never interested in online meetings. ?They are just not
>>> > suited to a ponderous person who often pauses before responding to
>>> > comments.
>>> >
>>> > That said, it's important to remember that Wikipedia was active for
>>> > more
>>> > than three years before WMF was incorporated. ?In those earliest years
>>> > Jimbo was footing the bills.
>>> >
>>> > The online database is a great idea. ?What's more important than a
>>> > discussion of possibilities is for individuals to commit to certain
>>> > projects and tasks. It's fair enough to say, "I'm not interested in
>>> > writing by-laws," but at the same time is that person committing to
>>> > something else. ?Now it is important for someone to accept personal
>>> > responsibility for setting up the online database.
>>> >
>>> > Setting up a website is great, and presumably it will employ Mediawiki
>>> > software. ?That takes someone to commit to paying for bandwidth,
>>> > starting the site at a technical level, and installing the basic
>>> > software.
>>> >
>>> > Using wikisource.ca <http://wikisource.ca> for this is OK by me as
>>> the current owner of the
>>> > domain name. ?I will raise the point when I'm at Wikimania, and unless
>>> > more constructive ideas are raised there will make it available in
>>> > September to someone who wants to start the website.
>>> >
>>> > Ec
>>> >
>>
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