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Nicholas Moreau

20 Apr 2007 20 Apr '07

3:12 p.m.

Current this list has public archiving--you don't have to be a member to access the old messages. We could have private archiving, which forces people to register, and thus messages aren't indexed by Google. I don't see any reason to have private archiving, but while I'm going through the preferences, thought I'd bring it up. Nick

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Michael Bimmler

20 Apr 20 Apr

3:16 p.m.

I see no reason to switch the archive to private. The public (pre-establishment) discussion list should remain as open as possible, allowing people to choose whether they want to read it with a subscription or through the archive. Further, it also allows linking to posts in the archive e.g. on meta. If issues of confidentiality arise (though I doubt much will come up, from my experience I know that it is possible to establish a chapter entirely on a public list, a private list / mail alias for the "core team" should be created (which could be transformed into a board-list after establishment). Regards Michael On 4/20/07, Nicholas Moreau <nicholasmoreau(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Current this list has public archiving--you don't have to be a member to access the old messages. We could have private archiving, which forces people to register, and thus messages aren't indexed by Google. I don't see any reason to have private archiving, but while I'm going through the preferences, thought I'd bring it up. Nick _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca

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gerald lists

5:38 p.m.

The bigger issue is spam, I think, and I believe that the archives already do some obscuring to help with that. If you have privacy concerns, there are a few places to sign up to obscure your identity using free mail hosts. My feeling is to keep it public ... we need more participation, and easier access. Gerald.

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Nicholas Moreau

5:41 p.m.

Okay, it'll stay public. On 4/20/07, gerald lists <geraldablists(a)gmail.com> wrote:

The bigger issue is spam, I think, and I believe that the archives already do some obscuring to help with that. If you have privacy concerns, there are a few places to sign up to obscure your identity using free mail hosts. My feeling is to keep it public ... we need more participation, and easier access. Gerald.

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Ray Saintonge

10:10 p.m.

Nicholas Moreau wrote:

Current this list has public archiving--you don't have to be a member to access the old messages. We could have private archiving, which forces people to register, and thus messages aren't indexed by Google. I don't see any reason to have private archiving, but while I'm going through the preferences, thought I'd bring it up.

I have no problem with public archiving. Does anyone intend to say anything that they would not want to be public? Ec

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Ray Saintonge

10:21 p.m.

gerald lists wrote:

The bigger issue is spam, I think, and I believe that the archives already do some obscuring to help with that. If you have privacy concerns, there are a few places to sign up to obscure your identity using free mail hosts. My feeling is to keep it public ... we need more participation, and easier access.

Having the list moderated should help us to deal with spam. You should be able to let messages from registered members through without moderation. When something comes from a stranger you have the option of letting it through or not. That allows you to delete spam before it gets to the whole list. Ec

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Guillaume Paumier

22 Apr 22 Apr

10:02 a.m.

Hello, On 4/20/07, Nicholas Moreau <nicholasmoreau(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Current this list has public archiving--you don't have to be a member to access the old messages. We could have private archiving, which forces people to register, and thus messages aren't indexed by Google. I don't see any reason to have private archiving, but while I'm going through the preferences, thought I'd bring it up.

If I may share my experience within the French chapter : a closed moderated low-traffic list reserved to members of the chapter can really be helpful if all the members are automatically subscribed to the list. Such a list is useful when the board needs to reach all members for important internal messages. And an open public high-traffic mailing list is useful too for general discussions. So I would say: keep this general list public, and you may in the future create a closed mailing list for members. -- Guillaume Paumier [[m:User:guillom]] "Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined." Henry David Thoreau

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Ray Saintonge

7:45 p.m.

Guillaume Paumier wrote:

Hello, On 4/20/07, Nicholas Moreau <nicholasmoreau(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Current this list has public archiving--you don't have to be a member to access the old messages. We could have private archiving, which forces people to register, and thus messages aren't indexed by Google. I don't see any reason to have private archiving, but while I'm going through the preferences, thought I'd bring it up.

If I may share my experience within the French chapter : a closed moderated low-traffic list reserved to members of the chapter can really be helpful if all the members are automatically subscribed to the list. Such a list is useful when the board needs to reach all members for important internal messages. And an open public high-traffic mailing list is useful too for general discussions. So I would say: keep this general list public, and you may in the future create a closed mailing list for members.

I absolutely agree. Once the chapter is formed discussions will be needed that should be confidential. Ec

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