What we have here is a great example of one of the reasons we wish to move to a new mailing list. Let me elaborate
1) There is know way to determine if the person on this mailing list is or is not a member of Wiki Canada. Membership per our bylaws is restricted to Canadian citizens. The first response to Alans announcement of the move was from Casey Brown. This person is not a member of Wiki Canada and does not appear to be Canada per his Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cbrown1023 Than we have a comment from Delphine Menard who is also neither a member of Wiki Canada nor Canadian. Neither one of them supported this move but they are not members of Wiki Canada and do not appear to be eligible. And if we are to get charity status from the Canadian Revenue Agency they cannot be eligible to have a say.
2) I have emailed people at Wikimedia in the past requesting moderator control of this list. I never received a reply. I have done so again in the last few days and have not been emailed back yet. We need a forum that members of Wiki Canada have control over. I do not mind and actually encourage people from other countries and non members to listen in but I am not happy having non members generate drama for our organization. We on the board of Wiki Canada are all volunteers, we all have professional lives and do this in our free time. We want to keep work as productive as possible.
3) Let me re-post our up coming meet up in Vancouver:
We have decided on a location for a meet up in Vancouver. Details below
- Date : Friday April 29th, 2011 - Hour : 7 pm PST - Location : Benny's Bagels, 2505 W. Broadway, Vancouver, BC V6K 2E9
Please sign up here http://wikimedia.ca/wiki/Meetings/2011-04-29 to give us an idea of numbers. Amgine will be there early holding us a spot.
I am at present composing an email to various members of the staff, to try and get the mailing list cracked open. I expect to have more effect with my contact.
Non-members creating drama? Perhaps the reason we non-members don't become members is because there's no definitive purpose to this organization yet. I don't see anything to convince me this organization is going anywhere useful. I'll leave it at that.
Nick
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 6:43 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
- I have emailed people at Wikimedia in the past requesting moderator
control of this list. I never received a reply. I have done so again in the last few days and have not been emailed back yet. We need a forum that members of Wiki Canada have control over. I do not mind and actually encourage people from other countries and non members to listen in but I am not happy having non members generate drama for our organization. We on the board of Wiki Canada are all volunteers, we all have professional lives and do this in our free time. We want to keep work as productive as possible.
I think when James refer to "non-members", he meant those individuals on the mailing list who cannot join WMC because they're not Canadians.
Andrew
"Fill the world with children who care and things start looking up."
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:02:54 -0400 From: nicholasmoreau@gmail.com To: wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Moving to new mailing list - how to stay in the loop
I am at present composing an email to various members of the staff, to try and get the mailing list cracked open. I expect to have more effect with my contact.
Non-members creating drama? Perhaps the reason we non-members don't become members is because there's no definitive purpose to this organization yet. I don't see anything to convince me this organization is going anywhere useful. I'll leave it at that.
Nick
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 6:43 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
- I have emailed people at Wikimedia in the past requesting moderator
control of this list. I never received a reply. I have done so again in the last few days and have not been emailed back yet. We need a forum that members of Wiki Canada have control over. I do not mind and actually encourage people from other countries and non members to listen in but I am not happy having non members generate drama for our organization. We on the board of Wiki Canada are all volunteers, we all have professional lives and do this in our free time. We want to keep work as productive as possible.
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