Morgan, I think Siska was saying, effectively, "you have to crawl before you can walk" - whereas you seem intent on running first.
I am personally quite dubious about the "wikimedia asia" concept at this stage in the development of the Wikimedia movement and, if my summary of what Siska was saying is correct, then I have to agree with that. I do like the idea of having continent-wide collaboration project and also for sharing resources and best-practices. I also think things like Wikimania-Asia are interesting concepts for the future. However! As far as I'm aware, none of the Asian chapters (Australia included) have any staff or an office and none have any experience running fundraising campaigns/business deals within their own country - let alone at an international level! If the concept of Wikimedia-Asia is one more about trying to bring more attention of the wider wikimedia community towards Asia (to counteract a perceived bias towards Europe) then the best way to do this is to develop individually and share best practices (and money if you wish) but not to create a *new* organisation when the old one's aren't even ready to handle it.
Just my thoughts, -Liam VP Wikimedia Australia
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2010/7/23 Morgan Chan morgand536@wikimedia.hk
Hmmmm .... I think my English is too bad to understand what you are talking about. I don't really get it, about the bamboo and some sort of non-profit training. Can you try to explain it and be straight forward?
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On Jul 23, 2010, at 14:02, Siska Doviana siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id wrote:
You know what, you guys, seriously if i have a bamboo long enough to hit Hong Kong and Philipines at the same time from Indonesia I will utilize it. In the mean time, until I do, rather than another unmaintain website, why don't one of u ask for a grant to come to Jakarta to receive a non profit/ not for profit management training. Taipei was planning to do this, but Tzu missed it I guess.
On 7/23/10, Morgan Chan morgand536@wikimedia.hk wrote:
the purpose of the website: showing the latest news and progress about Wikimedia Asia Project the real purpose of the website: showing to the potential sponsor the
latest
news and progress about Wikimedia Asia Project
lol
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Siska Doviana < siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id> wrote:
And the purpose of another website to maintain is for...?
On 7/23/10, Josh Lim jamesjoshualim@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Siska,
Yes, Wikimedia Asia includes all existing Asian chapters (HK, ID, IL, IN, PH, TW). I don't see the point of excluding Indonesia since Indonesia
after
all
is in Asia. xP
Regards,
Josh
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Assembly
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From: Siska Doviana siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id To: Asian Wikimedia Chapters coordination wikimedia-asia-chapters@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 1:11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-asia-chapters] Web designer Needed!
Hi Morgan, is this Asian excluding Indonesia? Since I know nothing about it. If yes, please disregard my comment.
On 7/22/10, Morgan Chan morgand536@wikimedia.hk wrote:
Dear Asian:
We need web designers to design and run the website of Wikimedia Asia Project. Any volunteer?
-- Best regards, Morgan Chan
Morgan Chan Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation E-mail：morgand536@wikimedia.hk Tel.：+852 9012-2178 WLM：morgand536@gmail.com Skype: ups918 Twitter: morgand536
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