Wikimedia-asia-chapters July 2010

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Wikimedia Asia Meeting 2011 details
by Morgan Chan 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

Dear all: On behalf of WIkimedia Hong Kong, i am glad to inform all the Asian parties that our first Wikimedia Asia Meeting will be hold during APRICOT-APAN.asia/2011 <http://apricot-apan.asia/>. APRICOT (Asia Pacific Regional Interent Conference on Operational Technologies) is Asia Pacific's premier internet annual summit. It aims to provide a forum for key Internet builders in the region to learn from their peers and other leaders in the the internet community from around the world. The conference is on 21-25 Feb 2011 in Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre. The meeting will be listed in the open agenda and every attendees can join. The meeting has been notified to WMFoundation, and Kul will be the one who follows the stuff of the meeting. But at the first stage, we need to find out the aims of the meeting. Maybe you guys want start a Asia-wide project, then it will be the time for you guys to do it. The point is we just want to make the meeting more meaningful, rather than just meeting Asian fellows. For the sponsorship and scholarship of the meeting, we will discuss it at the next stage. -- Best regards, Morgan Chan ---------------------------------------------------- Morgan Chan Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk Tel.：+852 9012-2178 WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com Skype: ups918 Twitter: morgand536

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Web designer Needed!
by Morgan Chan 25 Jul '10

25 Jul '10

Dear Asian: We need web designers to design and run the website of Wikimedia Asia Project. Any volunteer? -- Best regards, Morgan Chan ---------------------------------------------------- Morgan Chan Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk Tel.：+852 9012-2178 WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com Skype: ups918 Twitter: morgand536

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Free Your Knowledge Project 2010
by Siska Doviana 25 Jul '10

25 Jul '10

Ok, It seems like I can't appointed anyone until December, so you guys stuck with me. I remember one email reminding people new to the list, what this list is, so I think it is only fair to give a heads up to people who are new to me :-) I have receive more than one reminder off list to be polite and my answer to that is, I think, the whole Asian continent is polite, if you found one female who is not polite in this list, I don't think it will kill anyone. I want to be critical, and as a matter of fact, if there are people who don't like my attitude, I will feed them vegetables so they live healthy and long because if people don't like you they will give you honest feed back - and I'm looking forward to that. So we could fix wrong move as soon as after it was made. I will feed my ego for complimentary someplace else - preferably with money. Now, back to the subject For those of you who weren't familiar with the subject: WMID launched a wikipedia writing competition for 10 universities and train 90 participants to write in Wikipedia. Although the project report has not finished yet, I will share with you behind the screen result that won't make it to report, since, like a lot of Asian, my English is not very good when it come to telling things that people won't like. 1. Will people write wikipedia if they get paid? I paid three intern to write in wikipedia in their training month to get familiar with how it works. None of them know how wikipedia works. They received USD 165/ month which is a lot for university students without the need to actually to be in the office. Over one month they manage to have 6 articles, 3 complete one, and 3 stubs, only one didn't get tag improvement by the community. So I conclude that I won't even try to pay people to write to wikipedia. I did that, it sucked. So the answer to that: probably, but you won't have a good quality article by forcing people to write, they will only do so to meet quantity target, but not quality. 2. Will people write wikipedia if they are offered "other" incentive? Yes. In this case, students, who, in natural setting won't have anything to do with wikipedia, when introduce to the project, they specially react to recognition, love the challenge - the competitive environment and its limit - die trying conquering it, and all in all - they LOVE to travel to Europe. In short, trip incentive work wonderfully. 3. Did they return to wikipedia to socialize? Before I answer that, the competition at first was launch because I thought people don't contribute to wikipedia because they don't know how, they are not bold enough to try, etc-etc. So it is interesting when, they already know how, and becoming very good at it PLUS I receive email messages from participants who pledge going to help the "free knowledge effort" no matter what. 87 participants and 72 days later. None of them return. Well, there is one, but I remember I asked him, have you write wikipedia before the competition? And he nods, I believe it was only a change of user name for him. So what went wrong? Funny enough, I don't even have to ask... One participant wrote to me aftermath. "From the information I gather, I think there's a lot of crazy people in wikipedia, I probably would come back to write because I love writing. But I definitely won't join the conversation." I replied and said "interesting!" (not surprising though). Maybe if the writer could gather less-crazy people, then probably the writer would like to reconsider not joining the conversation, and add: let's figure out a way to do that. So that's outside opinion for internal community. What did the community think about bringing in more people in? Surprisingly, they are equally resistant! Well, I only ask one person, not exactly a representative population (for 30 v.active user). Not mentioning name here. "Interesting result, I would like to try 1,000 spot competition next, already have human resources to handle it." "Having more new people could change the game." "What game?" "Rule of play" And I go, OMG, they like their power. They like the idea keep going abroad and become knowledgeable representative. More people mean more competition. More people mean less power, and perhaps less respect? from an already established community. I actually never thought of that. Or maybe I'm asking the wrong person? Not really sure. So there you go, just a random rant. Maybe didn't mean anything, but I think it is worth sharing. -- Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia Ph. +62 816 484 5052 ~~~~ Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan: http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi

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Wikimedia Asia Project on Meta
by Morgan Chan 23 Jul '10

23 Jul '10

Dear all: I created a page on meta for Wikimedia Asia Project. I tried to put everything about Wikimedia Asia Project on it and i hope it would be easier for new comers to follow what is actually going on here. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_Project -- Best regards, Morgan Chan ---------------------------------------------------- Morgan Chan Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk Tel.：+852 9012-2178 WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com Skype: ups918 Twitter: morgand536

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Asian Meet Up Tonight
by Morgan Chan 10 Jul '10

10 Jul '10

Dear all Asians, Our Meet Up will hold at 7:30 PM - 8:00 PM tonight, the venue is not sure yet, but i know we will meet each other at the* *Gathering of people from existing and potential chapters, so don't worry that we will miss each other. We only have 30 mins, i think it is even less time than we had in Berlin. So I think i will make an Agenda and keep the things going quickly. I will send it to the mailing list later. So see you tonight! :-) -- Best regards, Morgan Chan ---------------------------------------------------- Morgan Chan Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk Tel.：+852 9012-2178 WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com Skype: ups918 Twitter: morgand536

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For the panelist
by Morgan Chan 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

I think we have to meet each other today So how about we have dinner together? With your computer. See you guy in Philharmonic at 1830 tonight? -- Best regards, Morgan Chan ---------------------------------------------------- Morgan Chan Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk Tel.：+852 9012-2178 WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com Skype: ups918 Twitter: morgand536

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My phone no.
by Morgan Chan 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

My local phone number is 514-214-329. You can call me and now i am in the office. -- Best regards, Morgan Chan ---------------------------------------------------- Morgan Chan Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk Tel.：+852 9012-2178 WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com Skype: ups918 Twitter: morgand536

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Gdansk
by Morgan Chan 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Hi all, I am arrived Gdansk. Now I am sitting in the Philharmonic office. Unfortunately, my luggage is lost. But it is fine. If you guys want to have a chat or dinner with me, you can find me at the office. :p And i think our panelists should also gather together and have a discussion about our session. :-) See you in the office, guys. -- Best regards, Morgan Chan ---------------------------------------------------- Morgan Chan Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk Tel.：+852 9012-2178 WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com Skype: ups918 Twitter: morgand536

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Attending Wikimania 2010 from Bangladesh
by Belayet Hossain 06 Jul '10

06 Jul '10

প্রিয় সহকর্মীবৃন্দ আনন্দের সাথে আপনাদের জানাচ্ছি যে, আগামী ৮-১১ জুলাই পোল্যান্ডের, গিদানস্কে[০] অনুষ্ঠিত হতে যাচ্ছে উইকিপিডিয়ানদের বার্ষিক সম্মেলন "উইকিম্যানিয়া ২০১০[১]"। এবারের উইকিম্যানিয়াতে বাংলাদেশ থেকে আমি এবং নাসির খান সৈকত অংশগ্রহণ করছি। সেখানে আমরা উইকিমিডিয়া বাংলাদেশের প্রতিনিধি হিসেবে অংশগ্রহণ করছি। উইকিম্যানিয়া যোগ দেওয়ার লক্ষে আমরা আগামী ৭ই জুলাই পোল্যান্ডের উদ্দেশ্যে রওয়ানা হবো। আপনাদের সকলের কাছে আমরা দোয়া প্রার্থী যেন আমরা সফল ভাবে সম্মেলন শেষ করে দেশে ফিরতে পারি। এছাড়াও আরও একটি সংবাদ জানাতে চাই, গত ৪ঠা জুলাই রাতে আমার সাথে উইকিপিডিয়ার প্রতিষ্ঠাতা জিমি ওয়েল্‌সের সাথে বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়া এবং বাংলাদেশে উইকিপিডিয়া কম্যুনিটি সংক্রান্ত বিভিন্ন বিষয়ে ভিডিও কনফারেন্সিংয়ের মাধ্যমে আলোচনা হয়েছে। আমার ব্লগে এ সম্পর্কিত একটি ব্লগ আমি ইতিমধ্যে পোষ্ট করেছি। এ সম্পর্কে বিস্তারিত ঐ ব্লগে জানতে পারবেন। ব্লগের লিঙ্কটি[৩] নিচে দেওয়া হল। [০]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gda%C5%84sk [১]http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/ [৩]http://wp.me/pcRF1-4g ধন্যবাদান্তে, বেলায়েত -- Belayet Hossain http://www.facebook.com/bellayet Knowledge is universal ...so share it. Hillel____ If I am not for myself, who will be for me? If I am only for myself, what am I? If not now, when?

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Re: [Wikimedia-asia-chapters] Fwd: Wikimedia Indonesia board member 2009-2010
by Ted Chien 06 Jul '10

06 Jul '10

Welcome Siska. :) Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my HTC EVO 4G. ----- Reply message ----- 寄件者： "Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan" <yuyu(a)wikimedia.hk> 日期：週六, 7 月 3 日, 2010 年 4:38 下午主旨： [Wikimedia-asia-chapters] Fwd: Wikimedia Indonesia board member 2009-2010 收件者： "Asian Wikimedia Chapters coordination" <wikimedia-asia-chapters(a)lists.wikimedia.org>

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