Dear Pierre-Yves and all,
I hope you all are doing great !
I know that the Saudi government invests in covering the Hajj with professional photographers (around 30). It would be great if we could ask them to donate those pictures. We could start this conversation through the Saudi contributors, or if you want I could ping someone who could help to initiate this conversation with their Royal Court - Diwan. Or may be through Misk Foundation ?
This would let us optimise work and spend the potential budget in a more relevant work/initiative.
Best regards Emna
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 15:48:44 +0200 From: Pierre-Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr To: wikiar-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca Message-ID: <CAN152fsgAdoT-bhRLKWqsJJsWHFxsRcvAqzCX4ssdDm OdSpSjQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi,
First of all, my apology for my email in english.
It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj 2018 (or 2019).
There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but almost nothing of quality.
I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget, find some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot of articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
Pyb Wikimedia France
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
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hi it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users, and I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin < pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr>:
Hi,
First of all, my apology for my email in english.
It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj 2018 (or 2019).
There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
almost
nothing of quality.
I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
find
some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
of
articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
Pyb Wikimedia France
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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 22:44:25 +0000 From: Abbad Diraneyya aaddira@hotmail.com To: Mailing list for Arabic Wikipedia Discussion wikiar-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca Message-ID: <DB6PR06MB307801EFFBF35BDC8FB7A0D4B5930@DB6PR06MB3078. eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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Hi,
I get to visit Mecca a few times each year and I might be there at the time of Al-Hajj. However, it's not that simple to hand someone a camera and ask him to go to Hajj; it's a trip so rough that you only do it once or twice in a lifetime.
Going to Hajj implies going through a very rough time. It means spending half a day only to get there, sleeping in the street at night, walking at least a dozen kilometers per day, in addition to countless other hardships and even safety risks that you will have to endure for nearly five consecutive days. If there is a budget for such a project, you'll have to at least include a reasonable fee for the photographer himself, as well as to consider the legal possibility or permission of taking photos there.
I do not mean to be negative, but this and more should be taken into account if you're seriously willing to consider this project.
Best,
Abbad.
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hi it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users, and I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin < pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr>:
Hi,
First of all, my apology for my email in english.
It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj 2018 (or 2019).
There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
almost
nothing of quality.
I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
find
some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
of
articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
Pyb Wikimedia France
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
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I prefer this option.
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 13:42, Emna Mizouni emna.mizouni@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Pierre-Yves and all,
I hope you all are doing great !
I know that the Saudi government invests in covering the Hajj with professional photographers (around 30). It would be great if we could ask them to donate those pictures. We could start this conversation through the Saudi contributors, or if you want I could ping someone who could help to initiate this conversation with their Royal Court - Diwan. Or may be through Misk Foundation ?
This would let us optimise work and spend the potential budget in a more relevant work/initiative.
Best regards Emna
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 15:48:44 +0200 From: Pierre-Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr To: wikiar-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca Message-ID: <CAN152fsgAdoT-bhRLKWqsJJsWHFxsRcvAqzCX4ssdDm OdSpSjQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi,
First of all, my apology for my email in english.
It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj 2018 (or 2019).
There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
almost
nothing of quality.
I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
find
some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
of
articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
Pyb Wikimedia France
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 16:57:21 +0100 From: Mounir Touzri touzrimounir@gmail.com To: Mailing list for Arabic Wikipedia Discussion wikiar-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca Message-ID: <CAGj2RqDR0dM69j7ebcVKKGBhZu+V21YAiRH_=AV0JqnyK_BWKw@mail. gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
hi it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users,
and
I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin < pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr>:
Hi,
First of all, my apology for my email in english.
It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj 2018 (or 2019).
There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
almost
nothing of quality.
I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
find
some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would
be
happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
of
articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia
on
the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
Pyb Wikimedia France
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Hi,
I get to visit Mecca a few times each year and I might be there at the time of Al-Hajj. However, it's not that simple to hand someone a camera
and
ask him to go to Hajj; it's a trip so rough that you only do it once or twice in a lifetime.
Going to Hajj implies going through a very rough time. It means spending half a day only to get there, sleeping in the street at night, walking at least a dozen kilometers per day, in addition to countless other
hardships
and even safety risks that you will have to endure for nearly five consecutive days. If there is a budget for such a project, you'll have to at least include a reasonable fee for the photographer himself, as well
as
to consider the legal possibility or permission of taking photos there.
I do not mean to be negative, but this and more should be taken into account if you're seriously willing to consider this project.
Best,
Abbad.
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hi it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users,
and
I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin < pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr>:
Hi,
First of all, my apology for my email in english.
It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj 2018 (or 2019).
There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
almost
nothing of quality.
I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
find
some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would
be
happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
of
articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia
on
the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
Pyb Wikimedia France
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
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