Hi,

I get to visit Mecca a few times each year and I might be there at the time of Al-Hajj. However, it's not that simple to hand someone a camera and ask him to go to Hajj; it's a trip so rough that you only do it once or twice in a lifetime.

Going to Hajj implies going through a very rough time. It means spending half a day only to get there, sleeping in the street at night, walking at least a dozen kilometers per day, in addition to countless other hardships and even safety risks that you will have to endure for nearly five consecutive days. If there is a budget for such a project, you'll have to at least include a reasonable fee for the photographer himself, as well as to consider the legal possibility or permission of taking photos there.

I do not mean to be negative, but this and more should be taken into account if you're seriously willing to consider this project.

Best,

Abbad.

________________________________ From: Wikiar-l wikiar-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Mounir Touzri touzrimounir@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 6:57 PM To: Mailing list for Arabic Wikipedia Discussion Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca

hi it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users, and I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera

2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin < pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr>:

Hi,

First of all, my apology for my email in english.

It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj 2018 (or 2019).

There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but almost nothing of quality.

I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget, find some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot of articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)

Pyb Wikimedia France

[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon

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