Krzysztof P. Jasiutowicz wrote:
I don't know if people like Karl Wick would be pleased with a crowd of random editors to the text he has already written.
I have no problem with this, in fact it should take some of the work off my shoulders. However I imagine that there are others who would prefer autonomy and would be dissuaded from contributing to a wiki even if they wanted to release their work into the public domain .. there is no shortage of hubis in academia.
There are textbooks that were released into open source by their authors/publishers
If you know where I could get my hands on some of these textbooks please tell me. That would be a great starting point for further work.
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
It may be hard to make good university-level textbooks the wiki way,
I'd like to prove the contrary.
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On 15-07-2003, Karl Wick wrote thusly :
Krzysztof P. Jasiutowicz wrote:
I don't know if people like Karl Wick would be pleased with a crowd of random editors to the text he has already written.
I have no problem with this, in fact it should take some of the work off my shoulders. However I imagine that there are others who would prefer autonomy and would be dissuaded from contributing to a wiki even if they wanted to release their work into the public domain .. there is no shortage of hubis in academia.
OK. You are pioneering in Wikimedia with a new kind of project with the idea, established concepts and substantial amount of content that seems to be more or less complete.
I am excited and looking forward to seeing how other textbook-from-scratch projects will fare. Written not by one author but by hundreds. Commited but not necessarily with teaching experience.
Encylopedia is in a way fragmented into autonomous entities that do not have to create continuity (although they can). I think that a good textbook in most fields needs some master plan and methods to lead students through material, building their knowledge. I think pedagogical background and methodology is vital to writing a sensible textbook. No need to say personality of the author plays a very important role ;-)
I suppose that a large computer program can't be written in a Wiki way and we'll see if textbooks can.
There are textbooks that were released into open source by their authors/publishers
If you know where I could get my hands on some of these textbooks please tell me. That would be a great starting point for further work.
Not in organic chemistry that I know of but a book on programming in Ruby programming languge http://www.rubycentral.com/book/ and I think several other computing books published by O'Reilly.
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
It may be hard to make good university-level textbooks the wiki way,
I'd like to prove the contrary.
Regards, Kpjas.
Op di 15-07-2003, om 22:47 schreef Karl Wick:
Krzysztof P. Jasiutowicz wrote:
There are textbooks that were released into open source by their authors/publishers
If you know where I could get my hands on some of these textbooks please tell me. That would be a great starting point for further work.
Absolutely. I have been collecting Freely licensed textbooks (and some semi-free) in part for that purpose at http://www.opencursus.be/ since a year.
The default page shows the links, there is a category of open content projects with around 100 links. Previously there was mentioned that there where no Free textbook projects that used a wiki. Well, there is a least a small project at http://www.renaissoft.com/april/cgi-bin/wiki.pl
Here is my collection of 150 courses/textbooks: http://www.opencursus.be/modules.php?name=Downloads The blurps of text are dutch, but almost all link-descriptions are english, and could be useful for English Readers. The green or yellow buttons are acronyms of the licenses. If authors use other strong copyleft licenses, I'm sure they would agree to dual-license their material to include GFDL.
Wouter Vanden Hove
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