Daniel Mayer wrote:
Targuin wrote:
What does it take for things to HAPPEN around here? I've not seen any decent objections, and we all seem to agree on the fundamentals.
OK, I'll come out against having a separate Wikisource project since that is part of the whole reason of having Wikibooks.
I thought the purpose of Wikibooks was to create original, freely licensed (FDL) textbooks.
If annotated public domain works are within this mission, then great, start putting in them books! But it's a bit of a surprise to me, and probably to many others. Perhaps we need a clearer WikiMedia Project Map of some sort so the left hand knows what the right is doing. :)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Brion Vibber wrote:
Maveric149 wrote:
OK, I'll come out against having a separate Wikisource project since that is part of the whole reason of having Wikibooks.
I thought the purpose of Wikibooks was to create original, freely licensed (FDL) textbooks.
Wikibooks has moved beyond merely /text/books since some time ago. (Do not be confused by the limited examples and temporary URL!) It is news to me that Wikibooks wants to have /unedited/ sources; I know that Wikibooks wants to have /annotated/ sources, but since Wikipedia wants to have the very same thing, I don't think that storing original sources in Wikibooks is the right thing. On Wikisource, they can be made use of by any other project, Wikibook /and/ Wikipedia (and even Wiktionary if it likes, although in that case I can't imagine why it would want them).
If annotated public domain works are within this mission, then great, start putting in them books! But it's a bit of a surprise to me, and probably to many others.
Yes, annotated public domain works are within the mission, even if you limit it to textbooks for a schoolcourse, because anthologies are used like literature textbooks. But then again, annotated public domain documents on a smaller scale are within the mission of an encylcopaedia -- they are in paper ones now. And that's why they have been appearing on various Wikipedias lately -- which IIRC is how this whole thread got started in the first place!
So Wikisource should have all sources in one big wiki, because all languages want the same original documents. And both Wikipedia and Wikibooks can call those sources up (by copying them now, but perhaps in a more sophisticated, integrated way if anybody writes the code to do the magic) and annotate them (in whichever way is appropriate, for an encylcopaedia or an anthology).
Perhaps we need a clearer WikiMedia Project Map of some sort so the left hand knows what the right is doing. :)
That would be great. I can't even remember what they all are! Maybe mav (or anybody that knows) can put one up on [[meta:]]?
-- Toby
Toby Bartels wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
I thought the purpose of Wikibooks was to create original, freely licensed (FDL) textbooks.
Wikibooks has moved beyond merely /text/books since some time ago. (Do not be confused by the limited examples and temporary URL!)
Actually I was going by the main page, which says right at the top: "'''Wikibooks''' is a [[en:Wikimedia|Wikimedia]] project set up July 10, 2003 for the cooperative development of free, open content textbooks."
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Brion Vibber wrote:
Toby Bartels wrote:
Wikibooks has moved beyond merely /text/books since some time ago. (Do not be confused by the limited examples and temporary URL!)
Actually I was going by the main page, which says right at the top: "'''Wikibooks''' is a [[en:Wikimedia|Wikimedia]] project set up July 10, 2003 for the cooperative development of free, open content textbooks."
Yes, that's exactly what it was /set/up/ for way back then. ^_^
The ultimate use is still somewhat nebulous. There's this weird "Wikiversity" idea out now, for one thing.
-- Toby
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