Hoi, A long time ago, I have worked hard creating teaching material for people to learn Farsi. Farsi or Persian is the language spoken in Iran. The material was the material used by a teacher that I know. The material was created at http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Farsi. It was in the days when everything was still there. The original material had one basic flaw; it was written left to right while Farsi is written from left to right. While working on this material, it struck me that it is really sad that you have to create teaching material that is as basic as this for every language. As we were creating the concepts for what was called "Ultimate Wiktionary" but what is currently known as WiktionaryZ, it came to me that we should not have the Dutch words there as the translation for the Farsi content, but that we should have the translation of the Farsi words in the language of the student. This would mean that everybody can use the material. Today I was asked by someone where the Farsi lessons were, somebody actually wants to use it.. This means that all this effort had people use it... It meant that all the pronunciations were going to be listened to... The material is not there anymore .. it is not useful anymore .. I do not doubt that the people who worked on it intended well, but at this moment it is not Farsi / Dutch, it is not Farsi / English it is certainly unusable. The timing could have been worse; Brion is busy with the integration of the namespace manager. It is therefore possible to have pages in the fa.wikibooks that are specific for the Dutch language and pages specific for the English language. Alternatively we could have a namespace for Farsi content in the nl.wikibooks. This would mean however that we should be able to have a namespace that is oriented in a different direction from the other namespaces in a database. I do not know if we can do this already, I am sure however that we will want something like this for the right to left languages like Farsi in WiktionaryZ. Now there is one practical question remaining; what will we do with the Farsi lessons in the fa.wikibooks that were originally intended to teach Dutch people Farsi. Thanks, GerardM