I apologize for the crosspost between two of Wikimedia's mailing lists in advance, as this is somewhat related to both Wikipedia and Wikibooks.
One of my pet projects is [[b:Pokémon]], which attempts be a game guide for everything Pokémon (some at Wikipedia have proposed that all of the Pokémon articles be moved to the books, but that's not a relevant point here), and part of any good strategy guide is data and lots of it. Organizing this data is quite the problem. Here's an example:
One of the subprojects in [[b:Pokémon]] is the guide to the trading card game, and I need to solicit opinions on how a list of trading cards should be presented. In particular, what would the Wikipedia convention be when dealing with large amounts of raw data? Here are a few ideas I had thought up:
* Each trading card should have its own page. This will make categorization a trivial task, but will result in too many substub-quality pages. * Each set should have its own page, with each page describing the cards within that set. This will make categorization between sets of cards trivial, but categorization along other lines (such as the type of the trading card) a pain in the ass. This goes for giving a page to any arbitrary group of cards. My personal direction (not necessarily a good one) is a variation on this theme: the Pokémon cards themselves are described in their corresponding entry in [[b:Wikibooks Pokédex]]. * Wait until there's a real good Wikidata-like thing before implementing such an idea.
Part of the problem, I guess, is the lack of contributions from anyone else in the Wiki community - thus the need to solicit opinions. Plus, this idea does not have to specifically apply for my project - this scenario may arise in any other project in the books or the pedia (for example, a good application of this idea in the pedia is episode guides for particularly well-known series).
Unfortunately this list is not very active and this could be a major problem for Wikibooks. I saw some comments that Wikibooks is not taking off as expected, the problem could be the fact that there is no community to push it.
Not sure what could be done, I am very new to Wikibooks and this list.
Any suggestions?
Marius
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:35:02 -0700, kelvSYC kelvsyc@shaw.ca wrote:
I apologize for the crosspost between two of Wikimedia's mailing lists in advance, as this is somewhat related to both Wikipedia and Wikibooks.
One of my pet projects is [[b:Pokémon]], which attempts be a game guide for everything Pokémon (some at Wikipedia have proposed that all of the Pokémon articles be moved to the books, but that's not a relevant point here), and part of any good strategy guide is data and lots of it. Organizing this data is quite the problem. Here's an example:
One of the subprojects in [[b:Pokémon]] is the guide to the trading card game, and I need to solicit opinions on how a list of trading cards should be presented. In particular, what would the Wikipedia convention be when dealing with large amounts of raw data? Here are a few ideas I had thought up:
- Each trading card should have its own page. This will make
categorization a trivial task, but will result in too many substub-quality pages.
- Each set should have its own page, with each page describing the
cards within that set. This will make categorization between sets of cards trivial, but categorization along other lines (such as the type of the trading card) a pain in the ass. This goes for giving a page to any arbitrary group of cards. My personal direction (not necessarily a good one) is a variation on this theme: the Pokémon cards themselves are described in their corresponding entry in [[b:Wikibooks Pokédex]].
- Wait until there's a real good Wikidata-like thing before
implementing such an idea.
Part of the problem, I guess, is the lack of contributions from anyone else in the Wiki community - thus the need to solicit opinions. Plus, this idea does not have to specifically apply for my project - this scenario may arise in any other project in the books or the pedia (for example, a good application of this idea in the pedia is episode guides for particularly well-known series). _______________________________________________ Textbook-l mailing list Textbook-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/textbook-l
Hi,
Le Friday 10 December 2004 22:21, Marius Scurtescu a écrit :
Unfortunately this list is not very active and this could be a major problem for Wikibooks. I saw some comments that Wikibooks is not taking off as expected, the problem could be the fact that there is no community to push it.
Yes, there is a maintenance problem on the English Wikibooks (I don't about other languages except French which is fine).
Although I already deleted more 500 pages including content moved, junk, spams, and newbie tests, there still are hundreds of pages to be deleted, cleaned, linked or corrected, including nearly 500 orphaned pages, pages tagged for deletion since ages, etc.
* http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Lonelypages * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Votes_for_deletion * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Delete * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Yann/Talk_orphaned * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:VfD * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Bereits_nach_de....
BTW, user Attention-tunnel blanked a number of pages. Is this vandalism or not ? http://en.wikibooks.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=...
Not sure what could be done, I am very new to Wikibooks and this list.
Any suggestions?
Marius
Regards, Yann
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