From: "Milos Rancic" millosh@gmail.com Reply-To: Wikimedia textbook discussion textbook-l@lists.wikimedia.org To: "Wikimedia textbook discussion" textbook-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Textbook-l] NPOV and NOR as a local or a global policies onWikibooks? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:39:41 +0100
- Wikibooks and/or Wikiversity allow POV and OR for art analysis. This
is the best solution because we will have one community. Also, realization of the goal "free education" will stay inside of the projects which aim to work on this goal.
Every field, not just art, contains people who criticise and interpret the works of others. In economics, for instance, where people make financial decisions based on interpretation of data and also intent. Engineering, also teaches students to use arbitrary, personally selected metrics for optimizing designs. My point is that art is not a special case of this, and allowing OR and POV for teaching art for these reasons would require an abandonment of the policies completely. In many instances, OR and POV might be nice. They should not, however, be permitted on Wikibooks.
- Wikimedia makes another project for such purpose (something like
"wikiartstudies"). This is something like a "middle solution" because we will have de jure one community, but de facto two. Realization of the goal "free education" will be outside of Wikibooks and Wikiversity, but inside of Wikimedia.
Again, my point above that art is not special, and no one particular discipline requires it's own special wiki. You can suggest this on meta, i doubt the proposal will get far.
- The worst solution is to try to find a solution out of Wikimedia
(i.e. Wikia or anything else) because we will have both de jure and de facto different communities. Realization of the goal will be outside of both -- projects and Wikimedia.
So then a solution needs to be found in wikimedia. I think you don't understand the difference between explaining of an opinion (especially a common opinion), and the statement of that opinion as if it were fact. NPOV requires only that opinions not be treated as facts, and we can discuss art criticisms from an purely NPOV, academic background.
--Andrew Whitworth (Whiteknight)
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