Thanks for the information, Dragontamer!
--- percy tiglao prtiglao@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/4/07, Robert Scott Horning robert_horning@netzero.net wrote:
I have lothed the day that this would be
necessary, but Wikibooks has
now gone to a formal user arbitration situation.
For details, see:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Arbitration/Panic2k4_vs._SBJohnny
I have agreeed to step in here in terms of trying
to resolve this
situation. Panic hasn't been doing blatant
vandalism, but he has been
making it tough (apparently) to edit the C++
Programming Wikibook and
has made a few enemies and a few others who are
upset over his editorial
style.
In an attempt to formalize this discussion and try
to bring some order
here, and to keep this from spilling into areas
like policy pages to
legislate the behavior of Panic out of existance,
this has really turned
into a judicial situation instead. Both that, and
this situation is
quickly approaching the level of blatant wheel
warring, and I want to
nip that right away to keep it from happening.
Yes, this is perhaps a little more complicated
than the Wikipedia
arbitration. OK, that is intentional in this
situation, as I would like
to set this up in such a way that you don't want
to go through this meat
grinder if at all possible. Arbitration is
clearly the last and final
resort beyond trying to pull in people from
outside of the project to
make very arbitrary decisions based on very
incomplete information. I
certainly don't want to see Jimbo, Anthere, or
Erik having to get
involved here being pressured to act when they
won't know what is going
on in the first place. I know I have had to ask
around a bit and work
hard to even see if there is a case to be made
here at all.
It is my hope that these arbitration/mediation
cases are very, very
rare. I'm trying hard to stay objective here as
well, and am leaving
most of what is said to the discussion pages
above.
Once all of this has been more or less resolved, I
hope that we can come
up with the formal arbitration guidelines that
have been discussed now
for more than a year on Wikibooks. I guess that
until a situation like
this came up, there wasn't a percieved need to get
this put together.
*Sigh* it was only a matter of time. Get a bunch of people working together, and people will suddenly not want to work together for whatever reason :-/
I have not looked at the current issue (in fact, this is the first time I have heard of it. But I feel that in this specific case, community consensus may be a bad thing. Eventually, there may be groups of users vs other groups of users. Maybe Jimbo or some other person would have to step in there.
Oy, this is a whole new can-o-worms in Wikibooks policy...
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