Hi folks,
Here's a quick update on today's notifications release on the English Wikipedia.
The main features this week are new links to diff pages, which were requested by a number of power users for talkpage messages (1), as well as for mentions and thanks notifications.
These diff links now appear both on the notifications flyout, near the timestamp ('View changes') -- as well as in the plain text emails.
We are now working on a couple more features in coming weeks: * HTML Email notifications (2) * Improved Notification Structure (3) * More Metrics Dashboards (4)
Once these final features are done, we plan to start deploying Notifications on more wiki projects, starting with Meta and a couple non-English Wikipedias. In the fall, we hope to take on more features, as time and resources allow. For more information about our next steps for this project, check our 2013 plan for the E2 team (5).
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Ryan Kaldari for all his fine work on Notifications: he has now joined the Mobile team, where I am sure he will continue to amaze us with cool new features. Many thanks as well to Benny Situ, who will be leading our development work on Notifications going forward, and is the man to talk to about engineering questions for this project.
Please let us know if you have any questions about notifications. Enjoy the new features!
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
(1) Bugzilla Diff Links - Bug #48183: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48183
(2) HTML Email Spec: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_(Notifications)/Feature_requirements#HTML...
(3) Improved Notification Structure: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_(Notifications)/Feature_requirements#Impr...
(4) Notifications Metrics Dashboards: http://toolserver.org/~dartar/en/echo/
(5) Editor Engagement Features Plan: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editor_Engagement/2013_strategy_planning_(Feat...)
_______________________________
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we just released Notifications on our first non-english Wikipedias today!
The Echo extension is now deployed on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where users seem to be enjoying some of the tool's new features, such as the Mention and Thanks notifications.
Our next major deployment to another half-dozen non-English Wikipedias will take place on Sep. 17, as outlined in this proposed Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
We're delighted to bring these new features to a broader community and would like to take this opportunity to thank all the folks who made this deployment possible.
First off, kudos to Benny Situ for his fine development work on this final leg of the Notifications project, as well as Erik Benhardson, Matthias Mullie and Dario Taraborelli for their invaluable support. Next, my deepest appreciation to our Community team for their gracious advice and help in orchestrating this multi-site release: Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Jan Eissfeld, Sherry Snyder, Keegan Peterzell, Patrick Earley and Anna Koval.
Last but not least, we are very grateful to our community champions for each language, including: Benoît Evellin, Cantons de l'Est, Nou Nouill, Tisza Gergő, Tamas Meszoly, Bartosz Dziewoński, Tar Lócesilion, Oona Castro, Henrique Andrade and Jan Ainali -- to name but a few.
Thank you all for going out of your way to bring notifications to these communities. It has been a pleasure and an honor to work with each of you, and I look forward to more collaborations in the future.
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release. Enjoy the new features!
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
P.S.: You can now track notifications activity for each language on these dashboards, which refresh daily, thanks to Dario:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/frwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/huwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/plwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/ptwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/svwiki-features
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Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I'm happy to announce that we just released Notifications on our first non-english Wikipedias today!
The Echo extension is now deployed on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where users seem to be enjoying some of the tool's new features, such as the Mention and Thanks notifications.
Yay! This is awesome news.
Notifications: the sleeper success of summer 2013. :)
Thank you, Fabrice, Benny Situ and EE team! "Thanks" feature is still being translated so I could not check it properly in my tests. But I was trying to check whether gender variations will apply. If we say "this user has thanked you", no variation would apply. But if we use "thank you", then it does: Obrigado (for male) and Obrigada (for female), being the variation applied for the gender of the user who is thanking (and not the one being thanked). In the translation tool, I didn't find where/how to provide the 2 options.
Oona
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we just released Notifications on our first non-english Wikipedias today!
The Echo extension is now deployed on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where users seem to be enjoying some of the tool's new features, such as the Mention and Thanks notifications.
Our next major deployment to another half-dozen non-English Wikipedias will take place on Sep. 17, as outlined in this proposed Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
We're delighted to bring these new features to a broader community and would like to take this opportunity to thank all the folks who made this deployment possible.
First off, kudos to Benny Situ for his fine development work on this final leg of the Notifications project, as well as Erik Benhardson, Matthias Mullie and Dario Taraborelli for their invaluable support. Next, my deepest appreciation to our Community team for their gracious advice and help in orchestrating this multi-site release: Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Jan Eissfeld, Sherry Snyder, Keegan Peterzell, Patrick Earley and Anna Koval.
Last but not least, we are very grateful to our community champions for each language, including: Benoît Evellin, Cantons de l'Est, Nou Nouill, Tisza Gergő, Tamas Meszoly, Bartosz Dziewoński, Tar Lócesilion, Oona Castro, Henrique Andrade and Jan Ainali -- to name but a few.
Thank you all for going out of your way to bring notifications to these communities. It has been a pleasure and an honor to work with each of you, and I look forward to more collaborations in the future.
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release. Enjoy the new features!
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
P.S.: You can now track notifications activity for each language on these dashboards, which refresh daily, thanks to Dario:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/frwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/huwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/plwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/ptwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/svwiki-features
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
On 08/20/2013 11:27 PM, Oona Castro wrote:
Thank you, Fabrice, Benny Situ and EE team! "Thanks" feature is still being translated so I could not check it properly in my tests. But I was trying to check whether gender variations will apply. If we say "this user has thanked you", no variation would apply. But if we use "thank you", then it does: Obrigado (for male) and Obrigada (for female), being the variation applied for the gender of the user who is thanking (and not the one being thanked). In the translation tool, I didn't find where/how to provide the 2 options.
Yes, gender support seems to be present almost everywhere in the extension. I found what I believe is a documentation error, pending review (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80329/).
It does use the gender of the thanker (though I can't help but wonder if there's some language that uses the recipient, or both).
In general, MediaWiki handles this with a gender magic word. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/GENDER#Users_have_grammatical_genders . I don't use TranslateWiki, so I don't know if they have a special interface for this, or you enter the magic word directly.
Matt Flaschen
This is great. Thanks for including the stats links Fabrice.
--tomasz
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we just released Notifications on our first non-english Wikipedias today!
The Echo extension is now deployed on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where users seem to be enjoying some of the tool's new features, such as the Mention and Thanks notifications.
Our next major deployment to another half-dozen non-English Wikipedias will take place on Sep. 17, as outlined in this proposed Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
We're delighted to bring these new features to a broader community and would like to take this opportunity to thank all the folks who made this deployment possible.
First off, kudos to Benny Situ for his fine development work on this final leg of the Notifications project, as well as Erik Benhardson, Matthias Mullie and Dario Taraborelli for their invaluable support. Next, my deepest appreciation to our Community team for their gracious advice and help in orchestrating this multi-site release: Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Jan Eissfeld, Sherry Snyder, Keegan Peterzell, Patrick Earley and Anna Koval.
Last but not least, we are very grateful to our community champions for each language, including: Benoît Evellin, Cantons de l'Est, Nou Nouill, Tisza Gergő, Tamas Meszoly, Bartosz Dziewoński, Tar Lócesilion, Oona Castro, Henrique Andrade and Jan Ainali -- to name but a few.
Thank you all for going out of your way to bring notifications to these communities. It has been a pleasure and an honor to work with each of you, and I look forward to more collaborations in the future.
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release. Enjoy the new features!
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
P.S.: You can now track notifications activity for each language on these dashboards, which refresh daily, thanks to Dario:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/frwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/huwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/plwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/ptwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/svwiki-features
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
Hooray, Echo! :) Great work, everyone – it's wonderful to see this feature on more wikis. We're hoping to release Echo to Wikimedia mobile sites soon, and it'll be extremely useful to have it be available on more than just mobile enwiki.
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Tomasz Finc tfinc@wikimedia.org wrote:
This is great. Thanks for including the stats links Fabrice.
--tomasz
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we just released Notifications on our first non-english Wikipedias today!
The Echo extension is now deployed on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where users seem to be enjoying some
of
the tool's new features, such as the Mention and Thanks notifications.
Our next major deployment to another half-dozen non-English Wikipedias
will
take place on Sep. 17, as outlined in this proposed Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
We're delighted to bring these new features to a broader community and
would
like to take this opportunity to thank all the folks who made this deployment possible.
First off, kudos to Benny Situ for his fine development work on this
final
leg of the Notifications project, as well as Erik Benhardson, Matthias Mullie and Dario Taraborelli for their invaluable support. Next, my
deepest
appreciation to our Community team for their gracious advice and help in orchestrating this multi-site release: Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Jan Eissfeld, Sherry Snyder, Keegan Peterzell, Patrick Earley and Anna Koval.
Last but not least, we are very grateful to our community champions for
each
language, including: Benoît Evellin, Cantons de l'Est, Nou Nouill, Tisza Gergő, Tamas Meszoly, Bartosz Dziewoński, Tar Lócesilion, Oona Castro, Henrique Andrade and Jan Ainali -- to name but a few.
Thank you all for going out of your way to bring notifications to these communities. It has been a pleasure and an honor to work with each of
you,
and I look forward to more collaborations in the future.
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release.
Enjoy
the new features!
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
P.S.: You can now track notifications activity for each language on these dashboards, which refresh daily, thanks to Dario:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/frwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/huwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/plwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/ptwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/svwiki-features
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
Thank you Fabrice and the Echo team.
The deployment is a success on French Wikipedia. A (power) user write on the village pump a good summary of the POV of our community about Notifications:
"As I see the enthusiasm about this feature, I think us, old users who usually doesn't accept novelty, have changed our minds for the first time" (the exact translation is quite difficult tl do).
This is great. This is an achievement :-)
Benoît Le 21 août 2013 21:44, "Maryana Pinchuk" mpinchuk@wikimedia.org a écrit :
Hooray, Echo! :) Great work, everyone – it's wonderful to see this feature on more wikis. We're hoping to release Echo to Wikimedia mobile sites soon, and it'll be extremely useful to have it be available on more than just mobile enwiki.
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Tomasz Finc tfinc@wikimedia.org wrote:
This is great. Thanks for including the stats links Fabrice.
--tomasz
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we just released Notifications on our first non-english Wikipedias today!
The Echo extension is now deployed on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where users seem to be enjoying some
of
the tool's new features, such as the Mention and Thanks notifications.
Our next major deployment to another half-dozen non-English Wikipedias
will
take place on Sep. 17, as outlined in this proposed Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
We're delighted to bring these new features to a broader community and
would
like to take this opportunity to thank all the folks who made this deployment possible.
First off, kudos to Benny Situ for his fine development work on this
final
leg of the Notifications project, as well as Erik Benhardson, Matthias Mullie and Dario Taraborelli for their invaluable support. Next, my
deepest
appreciation to our Community team for their gracious advice and help in orchestrating this multi-site release: Philippe Beaudette, Maggie
Dennis,
Jan Eissfeld, Sherry Snyder, Keegan Peterzell, Patrick Earley and Anna Koval.
Last but not least, we are very grateful to our community champions for
each
language, including: Benoît Evellin, Cantons de l'Est, Nou Nouill, Tisza Gergő, Tamas Meszoly, Bartosz Dziewoński, Tar Lócesilion, Oona Castro, Henrique Andrade and Jan Ainali -- to name but a few.
Thank you all for going out of your way to bring notifications to these communities. It has been a pleasure and an honor to work with each of
you,
and I look forward to more collaborations in the future.
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release.
Enjoy
the new features!
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
P.S.: You can now track notifications activity for each language on
these
dashboards, which refresh daily, thanks to Dario:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/frwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/huwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/plwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/ptwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/svwiki-features
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
-- Maryana Pinchuk Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
Thank you all for your kind words -- and kudos to the E2 team that made it all happen!
We're really happy with the results so far, and Benoît's quote below just made my day … getting our users more comfortable with innovation is one of our main goals, and it seems that we achieved it on this product, with all of your help.
We're now processing some of the minor bug reports we've received so far, but do not see any show stoppers.
I'm also pleased to report that more wikis like the Estonian and Korean Wikipedias are already getting ready for Notifications, according to community liaison Keegan Peterzell, so we expect to have a larger release than expected for our next deployment.
Thanks again to everyone who made this possible. See more comments below.
Cheers,
Fabrice
P.S.: If you are not already on this editor engagement mailing list, I invite you to subscribe here, so you can keep up with our work and/or respond to these messages:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
(I Bcc:'d our community partners, so they can hear the good news, but they can only respond if they join the list.)
On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Benoît Evellin wrote:
Thank you Fabrice and the Echo team.
The deployment is a success on French Wikipedia. A (power) user write on the village pump a good summary of the POV of our community about Notifications:
"As I see the enthusiasm about this feature, I think us, old users who usually doesn't accept novelty, have changed our minds for the first time" (the exact translation is quite difficult tl do).
This is great. This is an achievement :-)
Benoît
Merci, Benoît. We owe a lot of this success to you, as our first non-english community champion for Notifications -- and a pioneer in wiki innovation. It's always a pleasure to be working with you!
Le 21 août 2013 21:44, "Maryana Pinchuk" mpinchuk@wikimedia.org a écrit : Hooray, Echo! :) Great work, everyone – it's wonderful to see this feature on more wikis. We're hoping to release Echo to Wikimedia mobile sites soon, and it'll be extremely useful to have it be available on more than just mobile enwiki.
Yay, mobile team!
Can't wait to get my notifications on the go … in my native French language ! :)
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Tomasz Finc tfinc@wikimedia.org wrote: This is great. Thanks for including the stats links Fabrice.
--tomasz
You're welcome, thanks to Dario for getting them done so quickly.
It's interesting to note how much people are playing with Mentions, which represented over 25% of French activity in their first hours …
Compare that to these english wiki metrics:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/enwiki-features
On Aug 20, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Steven Walling wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm happy to announce that we just released Notifications on our first non-english Wikipedias today!
The Echo extension is now deployed on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where users seem to be enjoying some of the tool's new features, such as the Mention and Thanks notifications.
Yay! This is awesome news.
Notifications: the sleeper success of summer 2013. :)
Oh shucks, Steven, you're too kind … : )
On Aug 20, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Oona Castro wrote:
Thank you, Fabrice, Benny Situ and EE team! "Thanks" feature is still being translated so I could not check it properly in my tests. But I was trying to check whether gender variations will apply. If we say "this user has thanked you", no variation would apply. But if we use "thank you", then it does: Obrigado (for male) and Obrigada (for female), being the variation applied for the gender of the user who is thanking (and not the one being thanked). In the translation tool, I didn't find where/how to provide the 2 options.
Oona
Oona, thanks so much for all that you and Henrique did to make this happen so quickly, you guys were awesome!
For now, I would recommend that you try to come up with a gender-neutral translation for the Thanks notification, as a lot of users do not disclose their gender. We can look into adding gender-specific messaging later this year, but will still need a generic solution for 'undisclosed' users, sadly.
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we just released Notifications on our first non-english Wikipedias today!
The Echo extension is now deployed on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where users seem to be enjoying some of the tool's new features, such as the Mention and Thanks notifications.
Our next major deployment to another half-dozen non-English Wikipedias will take place on Sep. 17, as outlined in this proposed Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
We're delighted to bring these new features to a broader community and would like to take this opportunity to thank all the folks who made this deployment possible.
First off, kudos to Benny Situ for his fine development work on this final leg of the Notifications project, as well as Erik Benhardson, Matthias Mullie and Dario Taraborelli for their invaluable support. Next, my deepest appreciation to our Community team for their gracious advice and help in orchestrating this multi-site release: Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Jan Eissfeld, Sherry Snyder, Keegan Peterzell, Patrick Earley and Anna Koval.
Last but not least, we are very grateful to our community champions for each language, including: Benoît Evellin, Cantons de l'Est, Nou Nouill, Tisza Gergő, Tamas Meszoly, Bartosz Dziewoński, Tar Lócesilion, Oona Castro, Henrique Andrade and Jan Ainali -- to name but a few.
Thank you all for going out of your way to bring notifications to these communities. It has been a pleasure and an honor to work with each of you, and I look forward to more collaborations in the future.
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release. Enjoy the new features!
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
P.S.: You can now track notifications activity for each language on these dashboards, which refresh daily, thanks to Dario:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/frwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/huwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/plwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/ptwiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/svwiki-features
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
-- Maryana Pinchuk Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
_______________________________
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
Hi guys,
We just released Notifications on another batch of wiki sites today: Bosnian, Dutch, Estonian, Farsi, Hebrew, Romanian and Spanish Wikipedias, as well as English Wikivoyage and Simple Wikipedia.
The Echo extension has already been well received on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where notifications are being used actively, though in very different ways: we're seeing a lot of activity for talk messages on most sites, but welcome, mentions and thanks notification levels vary quite a bit from site to site. More on this later.
Going forward, we plan to have weekly releases every Tuesday, as outlined in this Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
To prepare for each of these releases, we post announcements several weeks in advance, and invite community members to help translate and discuss this tool with their peers. We're finding that this approach helps build productive relationships within each community and encourages a smoother, stress-free adoption. We hope we can apply the same methodology for other major product releases in the future.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank our community liaison team for their invaluable help in socializing this multi-site release: Keegan Peterzell and Jan Eissfeld have been particularly helpful, along with Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Anna Koval, Patrick Earley and Sherry Snyder. Thanks as well to our fearless developer Benny Situ for making these deployments possible. :)
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release. Enjoy ...
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
_______________________________
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
Congratulations!!! :)
Sent from my mobile device.
On Sep 17, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi guys,
We just released Notifications on another batch of wiki sites today: Bosnian, Dutch, Estonian, Farsi, Hebrew, Romanian and Spanish Wikipedias, as well as English Wikivoyage and Simple Wikipedia.
The Echo extension has already been well received on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where notifications are being used actively, though in very different ways: we're seeing a lot of activity for talk messages on most sites, but welcome, mentions and thanks notification levels vary quite a bit from site to site. More on this later.
Going forward, we plan to have weekly releases every Tuesday, as outlined in this Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
To prepare for each of these releases, we post announcements several weeks in advance, and invite community members to help translate and discuss this tool with their peers. We're finding that this approach helps build productive relationships within each community and encourages a smoother, stress-free adoption. We hope we can apply the same methodology for other major product releases in the future.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank our community liaison team for their invaluable help in socializing this multi-site release: Keegan Peterzell and Jan Eissfeld have been particularly helpful, along with Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Anna Koval, Patrick Earley and Sherry Snyder. Thanks as well to our fearless developer Benny Situ for making these deployments possible. :)
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release. Enjoy ...
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
_______________________________
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
Thanks, Gayle!
FYI, here are the metrics dashboards for the 3 largest sites in yesterday's release, which Dario was kind enough to create for us:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/eswiki-features
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/nlwiki-features
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/hewiki-features
We won't be able to create dashboards for all of the Echo sites, but we will aim to track metrics for the largest projects, for comparison purposes. Stay tuned for more ...
All the best,
Fabrice
On Sep 17, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Gayle Karen Young wrote:
Congratulations!!! :)
Sent from my mobile device.
On Sep 17, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi guys,
We just released Notifications on another batch of wiki sites today: Bosnian, Dutch, Estonian, Farsi, Hebrew, Romanian and Spanish Wikipedias, as well as English Wikivoyage and Simple Wikipedia.
The Echo extension has already been well received on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where notifications are being used actively, though in very different ways: we're seeing a lot of activity for talk messages on most sites, but welcome, mentions and thanks notification levels vary quite a bit from site to site. More on this later.
Going forward, we plan to have weekly releases every Tuesday, as outlined in this Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
To prepare for each of these releases, we post announcements several weeks in advance, and invite community members to help translate and discuss this tool with their peers. We're finding that this approach helps build productive relationships within each community and encourages a smoother, stress-free adoption. We hope we can apply the same methodology for other major product releases in the future.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank our community liaison team for their invaluable help in socializing this multi-site release: Keegan Peterzell and Jan Eissfeld have been particularly helpful, along with Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Anna Koval, Patrick Earley and Sherry Snyder. Thanks as well to our fearless developer Benny Situ for making these deployments possible. :)
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release. Enjoy ...
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
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Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
On 09/18/2013 08:10 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Thanks, Gayle!
FYI, here are the metrics dashboards for the 3 largest sites in yesterday's release, which Dario was kind enough to create for us:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/eswiki-features
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/nlwiki-features
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/hewiki-features
We won't be able to create dashboards for all of the Echo sites, but we will aim to track metrics for the largest projects, for comparison purposes. Stay tuned for more ...
Why can't they be created for all sites? Is it performance, or is the dashboard creation process not sufficiently automated?
Matt Flaschen
It's a lack of automated tools.
Right now, Dario has to create each of them manually and it's not practical for him to support hundreds of sites, given his workload.
But I think we can learn some useful lessons from the dashboards we already have, which are all listed here in our release plan:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Completed
Someday, when we have more resources, our analytics team may be able to automate this process, so we can support more sites.
-f
On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 09/18/2013 08:10 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Thanks, Gayle!
FYI, here are the metrics dashboards for the 3 largest sites in yesterday's release, which Dario was kind enough to create for us:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/eswiki-features
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/nlwiki-features
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/hewiki-features
We won't be able to create dashboards for all of the Echo sites, but we will aim to track metrics for the largest projects, for comparison purposes. Stay tuned for more ...
Why can't they be created for all sites? Is it performance, or is the dashboard creation process not sufficiently automated?
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On 09/18/2013 08:30 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
It's a lack of automated tools.
Right now, Dario has to create each of them manually and it's not practical for him to support hundreds of sites, given his workload.
Yeah, it certainly doesn't make sense to do them all manually. But I think it would be great to be able to script this.
Someday, when we have more resources, our analytics team may be able to automate this process, so we can support more sites.
Agreed, I'm CCing Analytics on this. For feature requests like this, is it best to file an enhancement in Bugzilla, email the Analytics list, or something else?
Matt Flaschen
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflaschen@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On 09/18/2013 08:30 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
It's a lack of automated tools.
Right now, Dario has to create each of them manually and it's not practical for him to support hundreds of sites, given his workload.
Yeah, it certainly doesn't make sense to do them all manually. But I think it would be great to be able to script this.
Someday, when we have more resources, our analytics team may be able to
automate this process, so we can support more sites.
Agreed, I'm CCing Analytics on this. For feature requests like this, is it best to file an enhancement in Bugzilla, email the Analytics list, or something else?
What exactly is the feature request (automate what process)? D
Matt Flaschen
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A little bit of context on these dashboards and what part of the process is "manual".
data sources The graphs primarily use data obtained by querying the EventLogging db or the private SQL slaves (there are some exceptions like the revert graphs, which involve more pre-processing). Refreshing the data typically depends on scripts run hourly or daily via cronjobs on stat1. The datasets are then rsync'ed to stat1001. The dashboards live on multiple Limn instances (typically set up on labs and controlled by different teams) which host the datasource, graph and dashboard definitions.
graph customization it's no big deal to generate multiple dashboards in a scripted way (that's what we do when a new feature is deployed on a number of projects). What's tricky is the fact that different projects may have different feature sets enabled, each feature may be configured differently on a per-project basis, and in some cases different parameters (such as project-specific cutoff dates) need to be set for segmenting the data.
It's obvious that this process doesn't scale well, pulling data from 800 slaves can be a pain (Oliver recently shared some really good thoughts on this) and it's hard to keep track of what data exists for each project or where it's hosted. Centralizing the generation of the datasets and the corresponding graphs will enormously simplify the process of creating and discovering dashboards and I think we should start from the low-hanging fruit of EventLogging data. EventLogging produces well-defined, project-agnostic datasets that can be written natively into different stores (including SQL, Redis, Hadoop or flat files). So here's what we could do:
1. we start producing dashboards for core metrics for all projects by ingesting EventLogging data into Hadoop. 2. next we experiment importing data from core MediaWiki tables (that by definition exist on each project) and have no problem of graph customization/fine-tuning. 3. finally, we define a registry of what features are enabled on each project and selectively import from the production DB tables that are needed to generate the data and the corresponding parameters.
Does this approach make sense and is there anything that prevents us from experimenting with step 1?
Dario
On Sep 18, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflaschen@wikimedia.org wrote: On 09/18/2013 08:30 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote: It's a lack of automated tools.
Right now, Dario has to create each of them manually and it's not practical for him to support hundreds of sites, given his workload.
Yeah, it certainly doesn't make sense to do them all manually. But I think it would be great to be able to script this.
Someday, when we have more resources, our analytics team may be able to automate this process, so we can support more sites.
Agreed, I'm CCing Analytics on this. For feature requests like this, is it best to file an enhancement in Bugzilla, email the Analytics list, or something else? What exactly is the feature request (automate what process)? D
Matt Flaschen
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
A little bit of context on these dashboards and what part of the process is "manual".
*data sources* The graphs primarily use data obtained by querying the EventLogging db or the private SQL slaves (there are some exceptions like the revert graphs, which involve more pre-processing). Refreshing the data typically depends on scripts run hourly or daily via cronjobs on stat1. The datasets are then rsync'ed to stat1001. The dashboards live on multiple Limn instances (typically set up on labs and controlled by different teams) which host the datasource, graph and dashboard definitions.
*graph customization* it's no big deal to generate multiple dashboards in a scripted way (that's what we do when a new feature is deployed on a number of projects). What's tricky is the fact that different projects may have different feature sets enabled, each feature may be configured differently on a per-project basis, and in some cases different parameters (such as project-specific cutoff dates) need to be set for segmenting the data.
It's obvious that this process doesn't scale well, pulling data from 800 slaves can be a pain (Oliver recently shared some really good thoughts on this) and it's hard to keep track of what data exists for each project or where it's hosted. Centralizing the generation of the datasets and the corresponding graphs will enormously simplify the process of creating and discovering dashboards and I think we should start from the low-hanging fruit of EventLogging data. EventLogging produces well-defined, project-agnostic datasets that can be written natively into different stores (including SQL, Redis, Hadoop or flat files). So here's what we could do:
- we start producing dashboards for core metrics for all projects by
ingesting EventLogging data into Hadoop.
We have experimented with this in the past and it should not be too hard to re-enable. I will confirm with Andrew.
- next we experiment importing data from core MediaWiki tables (that by
definition exist on each project) and have no problem of graph customization/fine-tuning.
We also experimented with this; we have a tool called Sqoop to import the data from MySQL to Hadoop. We would need to define which tables we need to import but that's not hard. I wrote a small tool called sqoopy that will automatically map MySQL column types to Hive column types and now with the the labsdb's we can just import from those databases and not have to worry about PII.
- finally, we define a registry of what features are enabled on each
project and selectively import from the production DB tables that are needed to generate the data and the corresponding parameters.
Would it make sense to read this info from the Mediaiwiki LocalSetting.php file or is that not containing all the relevant info?
Does this approach make sense and is there anything that prevents us from experimenting with step 1?
Nothing technical prevents us as far as I am aware; it's getting it appropriately prioritized so that we can work on it fast.
Dario
On Sep 18, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Matthew Flaschen <mflaschen@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On 09/18/2013 08:30 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
It's a lack of automated tools.
Right now, Dario has to create each of them manually and it's not practical for him to support hundreds of sites, given his workload.
Yeah, it certainly doesn't make sense to do them all manually. But I think it would be great to be able to script this.
Someday, when we have more resources, our analytics team may be able to
automate this process, so we can support more sites.
Agreed, I'm CCing Analytics on this. For feature requests like this, is it best to file an enhancement in Bugzilla, email the Analytics list, or something else?
What exactly is the feature request (automate what process)? D
Matt Flaschen
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We have experimented with this in the past and it should not be too hard to re-enable. I will confirm with Andrew.
There are two ways to do this, I think.
1. Use udp2log and pipe into Kafka. 2. Write a Kafka producer endpoint for EventLogging.
I like #2! And I think Ori does too (we talked about this once before). It should be pretty easy to do.
On Sep 19, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: A little bit of context on these dashboards and what part of the process is "manual".
data sources The graphs primarily use data obtained by querying the EventLogging db or the private SQL slaves (there are some exceptions like the revert graphs, which involve more pre-processing). Refreshing the data typically depends on scripts run hourly or daily via cronjobs on stat1. The datasets are then rsync'ed to stat1001. The dashboards live on multiple Limn instances (typically set up on labs and controlled by different teams) which host the datasource, graph and dashboard definitions.
graph customization it's no big deal to generate multiple dashboards in a scripted way (that's what we do when a new feature is deployed on a number of projects). What's tricky is the fact that different projects may have different feature sets enabled, each feature may be configured differently on a per-project basis, and in some cases different parameters (such as project-specific cutoff dates) need to be set for segmenting the data.
It's obvious that this process doesn't scale well, pulling data from 800 slaves can be a pain (Oliver recently shared some really good thoughts on this) and it's hard to keep track of what data exists for each project or where it's hosted. Centralizing the generation of the datasets and the corresponding graphs will enormously simplify the process of creating and discovering dashboards and I think we should start from the low-hanging fruit of EventLogging data. EventLogging produces well-defined, project-agnostic datasets that can be written natively into different stores (including SQL, Redis, Hadoop or flat files). So here's what we could do:
- we start producing dashboards for core metrics for all projects by ingesting EventLogging data into Hadoop.
We have experimented with this in the past and it should not be too hard to re-enable. I will confirm with Andrew. 2. next we experiment importing data from core MediaWiki tables (that by definition exist on each project) and have no problem of graph customization/fine-tuning. We also experimented with this; we have a tool called Sqoop to import the data from MySQL to Hadoop. We would need to define which tables we need to import but that's not hard. I wrote a small tool called sqoopy that will automatically map MySQL column types to Hive column types and now with the the labsdb's we can just import from those databases and not have to worry about PII. 3. finally, we define a registry of what features are enabled on each project and selectively import from the production DB tables that are needed to generate the data and the corresponding parameters. Would it make sense to read this info from the Mediaiwiki LocalSetting.php file or is that not containing all the relevant info?
Does this approach make sense and is there anything that prevents us from experimenting with step 1? Nothing technical prevents us as far as I am aware; it's getting it appropriately prioritized so that we can work on it fast.
Dario
On Sep 18, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflaschen@wikimedia.org wrote: On 09/18/2013 08:30 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote: It's a lack of automated tools.
Right now, Dario has to create each of them manually and it's not practical for him to support hundreds of sites, given his workload.
Yeah, it certainly doesn't make sense to do them all manually. But I think it would be great to be able to script this.
Someday, when we have more resources, our analytics team may be able to automate this process, so we can support more sites.
Agreed, I'm CCing Analytics on this. For feature requests like this, is it best to file an enhancement in Bugzilla, email the Analytics list, or something else? What exactly is the feature request (automate what process)? D
Matt Flaschen
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On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Andrew Otto otto@wikimedia.org wrote:
We have experimented with this in the past and it should not be too hard to re-enable. I will confirm with Andrew.
There are two ways to do this, I think.
- Use udp2log and pipe into Kafka.
- Write a Kafka producer endpoint for EventLogging.
I like #2! And I think Ori does too (we talked about this once before). It should be pretty easy to do.
My suggestion: let's start with 1 because that we can do off the bat and once we have deployed Kafka we migrate it to Kafka. so 1) as the intermediate solution, 2) as the final solution. D
On Sep 19, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
A little bit of context on these dashboards and what part of the process is "manual".
*data sources* The graphs primarily use data obtained by querying the EventLogging db or the private SQL slaves (there are some exceptions like the revert graphs, which involve more pre-processing). Refreshing the data typically depends on scripts run hourly or daily via cronjobs on stat1. The datasets are then rsync'ed to stat1001. The dashboards live on multiple Limn instances (typically set up on labs and controlled by different teams) which host the datasource, graph and dashboard definitions.
*graph customization* it's no big deal to generate multiple dashboards in a scripted way (that's what we do when a new feature is deployed on a number of projects). What's tricky is the fact that different projects may have different feature sets enabled, each feature may be configured differently on a per-project basis, and in some cases different parameters (such as project-specific cutoff dates) need to be set for segmenting the data.
It's obvious that this process doesn't scale well, pulling data from 800 slaves can be a pain (Oliver recently shared some really good thoughts on this) and it's hard to keep track of what data exists for each project or where it's hosted. Centralizing the generation of the datasets and the corresponding graphs will enormously simplify the process of creating and discovering dashboards and I think we should start from the low-hanging fruit of EventLogging data. EventLogging produces well-defined, project-agnostic datasets that can be written natively into different stores (including SQL, Redis, Hadoop or flat files). So here's what we could do:
- we start producing dashboards for core metrics for all projects by
ingesting EventLogging data into Hadoop.
We have experimented with this in the past and it should not be too hard to re-enable. I will confirm with Andrew.
- next we experiment importing data from core MediaWiki tables (that by
definition exist on each project) and have no problem of graph customization/fine-tuning.
We also experimented with this; we have a tool called Sqoop to import the data from MySQL to Hadoop. We would need to define which tables we need to import but that's not hard. I wrote a small tool called sqoopy that will automatically map MySQL column types to Hive column types and now with the the labsdb's we can just import from those databases and not have to worry about PII.
- finally, we define a registry of what features are enabled on each
project and selectively import from the production DB tables that are needed to generate the data and the corresponding parameters.
Would it make sense to read this info from the Mediaiwiki LocalSetting.php file or is that not containing all the relevant info?
Does this approach make sense and is there anything that prevents us from experimenting with step 1?
Nothing technical prevents us as far as I am aware; it's getting it appropriately prioritized so that we can work on it fast.
Dario
On Sep 18, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Matthew Flaschen < mflaschen@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On 09/18/2013 08:30 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
It's a lack of automated tools.
Right now, Dario has to create each of them manually and it's not practical for him to support hundreds of sites, given his workload.
Yeah, it certainly doesn't make sense to do them all manually. But I think it would be great to be able to script this.
Someday, when we have more resources, our analytics team may be able to
automate this process, so we can support more sites.
Agreed, I'm CCing Analytics on this. For feature requests like this, is it best to file an enhancement in Bugzilla, email the Analytics list, or something else?
What exactly is the feature request (automate what process)? D
Matt Flaschen
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We also experimented with this; we have a tool called Sqoop to import the data from MySQL to Hadoop. We would need to define which tables we need to import but that's not hard. I wrote a small tool called sqoopy that will automatically map MySQL column types to Hive column types and now with the the labsdb's we can just import from those databases and not have to worry about PII.
sounds like a good plan. I suspect we will need to import data from an uncensored source, tool labs removes much more than PII (for example, the archive table doesn't contain any PII and it's routinely used for internal data analysis).
Dario
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Diederik van Liere <dvanliere@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Matthew Flaschen <mflaschen@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On 09/18/2013 08:30 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
It's a lack of automated tools.
Right now, Dario has to create each of them manually and it's not practical for him to support hundreds of sites, given his workload.
Yeah, it certainly doesn't make sense to do them all manually. But I think it would be great to be able to script this.
Someday, when we have more resources, our analytics team may be able to
automate this process, so we can support more sites.
Agreed, I'm CCing Analytics on this. For feature requests like this, is it best to file an enhancement in Bugzilla, email the Analytics list, or something else?
What exactly is the feature request (automate what process)? D
Diederik and analytics: The part that was trimmed out of the original CC, can be found either at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ee/2013-September/000694.html or if my copy-paste works (indent format-wise), then below.
On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
- On 09/18/2013 08:10 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:*>>* Thanks, Gayle!*>>* *>>* FYI, here are the metrics dashboards for the 3 largest sites in*>>* yesterday's release, which Dario was kind enough to create for us:*>>* *>>* http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/eswiki-features*%3E%3E* *>>* http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/nlwiki-features*%3E%3E* *>>* http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/hewiki-features*%3E%3E* *>>* We won't be able to create dashboards for all of the Echo sites, but we*>>* will aim to track metrics for the largest projects, for comparison*>>* purposes. Stay tuned for more ...*>* *>* Why can't they be created for all sites? Is it performance, or is the dashboard creation process not sufficiently automated?*>* *>* Matt Flaschen*
On 09/18/2013 10:13 PM, Diederik van Liere wrote:
Agreed, I'm CCing Analytics on this. For feature requests like this, is it best to file an enhancement in Bugzilla, email the Analytics list, or something else?What exactly is the feature request (automate what process)?
Sorry, I left out some of the context. Automating the creation of Limn dashboards like http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/eswiki-features , http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/nlwiki-features , and http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/hewiki-features . I believe they are generated from EventLogging data (on Echo usage), and the only variant is which wiki it is.
Matt Flaschen
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflaschen@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On 09/18/2013 10:13 PM, Diederik van Liere wrote:
Agreed, I'm CCing Analytics on this. For feature requests like this, is it best to file an enhancement in Bugzilla, email the Analytics list, or something else?What exactly is the feature request (automate what process)?
Sorry, I left out some of the context. Automating the creation of Limn dashboards like http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.** org/dashboards/eswiki-featureshttp://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/eswiki-features, http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.**org/dashboards/nlwiki-featureshttp://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/nlwiki-features, and http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.**org/dashboards/hewiki-featureshttp://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/hewiki-features. I believe they are generated from EventLogging data (on Echo usage), and the only variant is which wiki it is.
Seems a bit more complicated based on Dario's description. But I roughly like the steps that Dario's outlined. Diederik is working on the battle plan and we'll make sure it includes these steps somehow. We should try to stay organized and think about the schema that we're building in Hadoop as we import more and more data. This can get out of control very quickly.
On 09/19/2013 10:04 AM, Dan Andreescu wrote:
Seems a bit more complicated based on Dario's description.
Well, some of the graphs vary by wiki. Some do not (e.g. "Daily notifications" should work the same on any wiki with Echo).
But I agree Dario's plan makes sense.
Matt Flaschen
Congrats. You'll see mobile notifications right alongside these automatically.
Let us know if you see any issues.
--tomasz
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi guys,
We just released Notifications on another batch of wiki sites today: Bosnian, Dutch, Estonian, Farsi, Hebrew, Romanian and Spanish Wikipedias, as well as English Wikivoyage and Simple Wikipedia.
The Echo extension has already been well received on the French, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where notifications are being used actively, though in very different ways: we're seeing a lot of activity for talk messages on most sites, but welcome, mentions and thanks notification levels vary quite a bit from site to site. More on this later.
Going forward, we plan to have weekly releases every Tuesday, as outlined in this Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
To prepare for each of these releases, we post announcements several weeks in advance, and invite community members to help translate and discuss this tool with their peers. We're finding that this approach helps build productive relationships within each community and encourages a smoother, stress-free adoption. We hope we can apply the same methodology for other major product releases in the future.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank our community liaison team for their invaluable help in socializing this multi-site release: Keegan Peterzell and Jan Eissfeld have been particularly helpful, along with Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Anna Koval, Patrick Earley and Sherry Snyder. Thanks as well to our fearless developer Benny Situ for making these deployments possible. :)
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release. Enjoy ...
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
Wonderful! Congratulations!!
From India, we (Telugu and Kannada Wikimedians) are getting the system
messages translated in Telugu and Kannada for the roll out end of this month.
Best, Vishnu
On Wednesday, 18 September 2013, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi guys,
We just released Notifications on another batch of wiki sites
today: Bosnian, Dutch, Estonian, Farsi, Hebrew, Romanian and Spanish Wikipedias, as well as English Wikivoyage and Simple Wikipedia.
The Echo extension has already been well received on the French,
Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Swedish Wikipedias, where notifications are being used actively, though in very different ways: we're seeing a lot of activity for talk messages on most sites, but welcome, mentions and thanks notification levels vary quite a bit from site to site. More on this later.
Going forward, we plan to have weekly releases every Tuesday, as outlined
in this Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013 To prepare for each of these releases, we post announcements several
weeks in advance, and invite community members to help translate and discuss this tool with their peers. We're finding that this approach helps build productive relationships within each community and encourages a smoother, stress-free adoption. We hope we can apply the same methodology for other major product releases in the future.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank our community liaison team
for their invaluable help in socializing this multi-site release: Keegan Peterzell and Jan Eissfeld have been particularly helpful, along with Philippe Beaudette, Maggie Dennis, Anna Koval, Patrick Earley and Sherry Snyder. Thanks as well to our fearless developer Benny Situ for making these deployments possible. :)
Please let us know if you have any questions about this new release.
Enjoy ...
Fabrice, on behalf of the E2 team
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
Hi folks,
Just a quick note to let you know that we just released Notifications on another batch of wiki sites today: Catalan, Danish, Japanese, Kannada, Korean, Norwegian (Bokmål), Telugu, Ukrainian and Vietnamese Wikipedias. (1)
We also released a couple bug fixes, including a long-awaited improvement to HTML email notifications on mobile phones (2), where messages are now easier to read than before.
The Echo extension has now been successfully deployed on over two dozen Wikipedias, where notifications have been really well received (1). Going forward, we plan to significantly increase the number of sites for each release, as outlined in this Echo release plan:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
Note that we will consolidate future releases every two weeks from now on. For example, we plan to deploy on two dozen more sites on October 8th (e.g. Chinese, Greek, Turkish Wikipedias). And we aim to release notifications on most 'sister projects' on October 22 (e.g.: Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wiktionary).
Many thanks to our developer Benny Situ and community liaison Keegan Peterzell for making these deployments possible. :)
Enjoy ...
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Completed
(2) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53057
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Is Wikinews going to be on that list? Or are we still the unloved ugly duckling of the sisters? ;)
-- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Tom Morris tom@tommorris.org wrote:
Is Wikinews going to be on that list? Or are we still the unloved ugly duckling of the sisters? ;)
Not as unloved as Wikispecies. ;)
Hi Tom,
Good catch!
This was an oversight on our part, and we just added WikiNews to the list, as well as Wikiversity.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Phase_5
This should be a pretty major deployment, as we're hoping to deploy in all languages on those sites, if feasible.
We'll keep you posted …
Fabrice
On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Steven Walling wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Tom Morris tom@tommorris.org wrote: Is Wikinews going to be on that list? Or are we still the unloved ugly duckling of the sisters? ;)
Not as unloved as Wikispecies. ;)
-- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
Hi folks,
I'm happy to say that we released Notifications on another two dozen wiki sites today: Albanian, Arabic, Azerbaijani, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Finnish, Galician, Greek, Indonesia, Latvia, Lithuanian, Malay, Norwegian-Nynorsk, Serbian, Slovak, Slovene, Sorani Kurdish, Thai, Turkish and Welsh Wikipedias. (1)
We also released a couple bug fixes, such as a popular community request to show all diff links in bundled messages. (2)
So we have now successfully released the Echo extension on most of the large Wikipedias and dozens more around the world -- with very positive community response, as summed up in last week's blog post: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/01/notifications-launch-on-more-wikipedia...
Based on this favorable feedback, we now plan to release Notifications on most remaining wiki sites in a single day, on Tuesday, October 22. This includes about 200 Wikipedias we haven't enabled yet, as well as about 500 'sister projects' in all languages (e.g.: Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wiktionary). This represents about 700+ sites total, leaving only a few wikis disabled, at their community's request.
If you are active in a community that doesn't have Echo enabled yet, we would be grateful if you could invite volunteers to help with translations and other tasks in our release checklist. (3)
If you have any questions or comments about enabling Echo on your site, please leave them on our release discussion page (4), or contact me directly.
Many thanks to our community liaison Keegan Peterzell and our developer Benny Situ for all their hard work on these final releases. :)
Best regards,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Completed
(2) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54391
(3) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Checklist
(4) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo/Release_Plan_2013
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Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I'm happy to say that we released Notifications on another two dozen wiki sites today: Albanian, Arabic, Azerbaijani, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Finnish, Galician, Greek, Indonesia, Latvia, Lithuanian, Malay, Norwegian-Nynorsk, Serbian, Slovak, Slovene, Sorani Kurdish, Thai, Turkish and Welsh Wikipedias. (1)
Congrats to Fabrice, Kaldari, Benny, Vibha and the rest of those who worked on notifications. It is great to see this so widely adopted.
Are there any German Wikipedians on this list? I regret to see dewiki missing from the list of wikis with this feature. In fact, it looks like the only one in the top 10 not using the feature.
I'd love to hear a German community member explain what the blockers really are. It seems strange that every other wiki would welcome notifications with open arms, but German Wikipedia would not...
On 10/08/2013 05:53 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Based on this favorable feedback, we now plan to release Notifications on most remaining wiki sites in a single day, on Tuesday, October 22. This includes about 200 Wikipedias we haven't enabled yet, as well as about 500 'sister projects' in all languages (e.g.: Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wiktionary).
Congratulations to the whole team! It's great to see the progress you've already made, and that you'll soon be rolling it out as default (with a couple exceptions).
Matt Flaschen
congrats, this is really exciting.
+1 on asking someone to summarize why dewiki is opposing the release.
On Oct 8, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to say that we released Notifications on another two dozen wiki sites today: Albanian, Arabic, Azerbaijani, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Finnish, Galician, Greek, Indonesia, Latvia, Lithuanian, Malay, Norwegian-Nynorsk, Serbian, Slovak, Slovene, Sorani Kurdish, Thai, Turkish and Welsh Wikipedias. (1)
We also released a couple bug fixes, such as a popular community request to show all diff links in bundled messages. (2)
So we have now successfully released the Echo extension on most of the large Wikipedias and dozens more around the world -- with very positive community response, as summed up in last week's blog post: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/01/notifications-launch-on-more-wikipedia...
Based on this favorable feedback, we now plan to release Notifications on most remaining wiki sites in a single day, on Tuesday, October 22. This includes about 200 Wikipedias we haven't enabled yet, as well as about 500 'sister projects' in all languages (e.g.: Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wiktionary). This represents about 700+ sites total, leaving only a few wikis disabled, at their community's request.
If you are active in a community that doesn't have Echo enabled yet, we would be grateful if you could invite volunteers to help with translations and other tasks in our release checklist. (3)
If you have any questions or comments about enabling Echo on your site, please leave them on our release discussion page (4), or contact me directly.
Many thanks to our community liaison Keegan Peterzell and our developer Benny Situ for all their hard work on these final releases. :)
Best regards,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Completed
(2) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54391
(3) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Checklist
(4) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo/Release_Plan_2013
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
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Yes! So awesome. As a Wikipedian in Residence in my volunteer life, who edits in many different languages, this just makes life easier.
Great work team! :)
-Sar
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
congrats, this is really exciting.
+1 on asking someone to summarize why dewiki is opposing the release.
On Oct 8, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to say that we released Notifications on another two dozen wiki sites today: Albanian, Arabic, Azerbaijani, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Finnish, Galician, Greek, Indonesia, Latvia, Lithuanian, Malay, Norwegian-Nynorsk, Serbian, Slovak, Slovene, Sorani Kurdish, Thai, Turkish and Welsh Wikipedias. (1)
We also released a couple bug fixes, such as a popular community request to show all diff links in bundled messages. (2)
So we have now successfully released the Echo extension on most of the large Wikipedias and dozens more around the world -- with very positive community response, as summed up in last week's blog post: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/01/notifications-launch-on-more-wikipedia...
Based on this favorable feedback, we now plan to release Notifications on most remaining wiki sites in a single day, on Tuesday, October 22. This includes about 200 Wikipedias we haven't enabled yet, as well as about 500 'sister projects' in all languages (e.g.: Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wiktionary). This represents about 700+ sites total, leaving only a few wikis disabled, at their community's request.
If you are active in a community that doesn't have Echo enabled yet, we would be grateful if you could invite volunteers to help with translations and other tasks in our release checklist. (3)
If you have any questions or comments about enabling Echo on your site, please leave them on our release discussion page (4), or contact me directly.
Many thanks to our community liaison Keegan Peterzell and our developer Benny Situ for all their hard work on these final releases. :)
Best regards,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Completed
(2) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54391
(3) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Checklist
(4) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo/Release_Plan_2013
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
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Thanks, you guys!
Kudos to the entire team that created this product. It may have taken us longer than we hoped, but the results so far seem to validate our investment.
We're making progress in our conversations with some of the communities that are still on the fence, and will keep you posted on those discussions. We may have more good news to share soon, if all goes well. Fingers crossed. :)
Onward!
Fabrice
On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
Yes! So awesome. As a Wikipedian in Residence in my volunteer life, who edits in many different languages, this just makes life easier.
Great work team! :)
-Sar
On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 10/08/2013 05:53 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Based on this favorable feedback, we now plan to release Notifications on most remaining wiki sites in a single day, on Tuesday, October 22. This includes about 200 Wikipedias we haven't enabled yet, as well as about 500 'sister projects' in all languages (e.g.: Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wiktionary).
Congratulations to the whole team! It's great to see the progress you've already made, and that you'll soon be rolling it out as default (with a couple exceptions).
Matt Flaschen
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: congrats, this is really exciting.
+1 on asking someone to summarize why dewiki is opposing the release.
On Oct 8, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to say that we released Notifications on another two dozen wiki sites today: Albanian, Arabic, Azerbaijani, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Finnish, Galician, Greek, Indonesia, Latvia, Lithuanian, Malay, Norwegian-Nynorsk, Serbian, Slovak, Slovene, Sorani Kurdish, Thai, Turkish and Welsh Wikipedias. (1)
We also released a couple bug fixes, such as a popular community request to show all diff links in bundled messages. (2)
So we have now successfully released the Echo extension on most of the large Wikipedias and dozens more around the world -- with very positive community response, as summed up in last week's blog post: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/01/notifications-launch-on-more-wikipedia...
Based on this favorable feedback, we now plan to release Notifications on most remaining wiki sites in a single day, on Tuesday, October 22. This includes about 200 Wikipedias we haven't enabled yet, as well as about 500 'sister projects' in all languages (e.g.: Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wiktionary). This represents about 700+ sites total, leaving only a few wikis disabled, at their community's request.
If you are active in a community that doesn't have Echo enabled yet, we would be grateful if you could invite volunteers to help with translations and other tasks in our release checklist. (3)
If you have any questions or comments about enabling Echo on your site, please leave them on our release discussion page (4), or contact me directly.
Many thanks to our community liaison Keegan Peterzell and our developer Benny Situ for all their hard work on these final releases. :)
Best regards,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Completed
(2) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54391
(3) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Checklist
(4) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo/Release_Plan_2013
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Just a quick note: We have connected Fabrice with some German community members (who were also involved in the ATF5 process) and they should be in touch about the current state of the discussion already.
Thanks for thinking of us. ;) Nicole
On 9 October 2013 02:50, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks, you guys!
Kudos to the entire team that created this product. It may have taken us longer than we hoped, but the results so far seem to validate our investment.
We're making progress in our conversations with some of the communities that are still on the fence, and will keep you posted on those discussions. We may have more good news to share soon, if all goes well. Fingers crossed. :)
Onward!
Fabrice
On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
Yes! So awesome. As a Wikipedian in Residence in my volunteer life, who edits in many different languages, this just makes life easier.
Great work team! :)
-Sar
On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 10/08/2013 05:53 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Based on this favorable feedback, we now plan to release Notifications
on most remaining wiki sites in a single day, on Tuesday, October 22.
This includes about 200 Wikipedias we haven't enabled yet, as well as
about 500 'sister projects' in all languages (e.g.: Wikibooks, Wikidata,
Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wiktionary).
Congratulations to the whole team! It's great to see the progress you've already made, and that you'll soon be rolling it out as default (with a couple exceptions).
Matt Flaschen
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
congrats, this is really exciting.
+1 on asking someone to summarize why dewiki is opposing the release.
On Oct 8, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to say that we released Notifications on another two dozen wiki sites today: Albanian, Arabic, Azerbaijani, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Finnish, Galician, Greek, Indonesia, Latvia, Lithuanian, Malay, Norwegian-Nynorsk, Serbian, Slovak, Slovene, Sorani Kurdish, Thai, Turkish and Welsh Wikipedias. (1)
We also released a couple bug fixes, such as a popular community request to show all diff links in bundled messages. (2)
So we have now successfully released the Echo extension on most of the large Wikipedias and dozens more around the world -- with very positive community response, as summed up in last week's blog post: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/01/notifications-launch-on-more-wikipedia...
Based on this favorable feedback, we now plan to release Notifications on most remaining wiki sites in a single day, on Tuesday, October 22. This includes about 200 Wikipedias we haven't enabled yet, as well as about 500 'sister projects' in all languages (e.g.: Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wiktionary). This represents about 700+ sites total, leaving only a few wikis disabled, at their community's request.
If you are active in a community that doesn't have Echo enabled yet, we would be grateful if you could invite volunteers to help with translations and other tasks in our release checklist. (3)
If you have any questions or comments about enabling Echo on your site, please leave them on our release discussion page (4), or contact me directly.
Many thanks to our community liaison Keegan Peterzell and our developer Benny Situ for all their hard work on these final releases. :)
Best regards,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Completed
(2) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54391
(3) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013#Checklist
(4) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo/Release_Plan_2013
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Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
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Greetings!
I'm excited to share the good news that we just released Notifications on most wikis around the world today!
This major release includes about 752 sites, ranging from sister projects like Commons and Wiktionary, to remaining Wikipedias in almost all languages. These wikis now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled, as listed here. (1)
If you are active in a community where we just released Echo, we would be grateful if you could quickly test that Notifications work for you -- and let us know if you encounter any issues on this discussion page. (2) We invite you to enable all notifications in your preferences before you test, and follow guidelines from this testing page (3).
We would like to thank all the community and team members who worked together to create this useful tool -- and we are really glad to be bringing it to millions more people around the world. (4)
We hope that many productive collaborations will be enabled by this tool, and make our movement grow further as a result. :)
Enjoy,
Fabrice
P.S.: We have not yet enabled Notifications on the German and Italian Wikipedias, because some of their community members thought that more discussions are needed about this feature. To support this request for more time, we are now targeting the week of November 18 for an Echo deployment on both sites.
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013/Site_List
(2) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo/Release_Plan_2013
(3) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Testing
(4) https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/01/notifications-launch-on-more-wikipedia...
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Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
On 10/22/2013 03:41 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Greetings!
I'm excited to share the good news that we just released Notifications on most wikis around the world today!
This major release includes about 752 sites, ranging from sister projects like Commons and Wiktionary, to remaining Wikipedias in almost all languages. These wikis now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled, as listed here. (1)
Congratulations to the whole team! This is an important milestone, and I look forward to seeing how wikis can leverage it. In addition to universal features like user talk notifications and mentions, wikis with custom extensions may find it useful for those extensions to also send notifications.
Matt Flaschen
this is really exciting, congrats!
On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflaschen@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 10/22/2013 03:41 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Greetings!
I'm excited to share the good news that we just released Notifications on most wikis around the world today!
This major release includes about 752 sites, ranging from sister projects like Commons and Wiktionary, to remaining Wikipedias in almost all languages. These wikis now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled, as listed here. (1)
Congratulations to the whole team! This is an important milestone, and I look forward to seeing how wikis can leverage it. In addition to universal features like user talk notifications and mentions, wikis with custom extensions may find it useful for those extensions to also send notifications.
Matt Flaschen
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
I am especially thrilled about the Commons deployment! This is going to be awesome!
I also noted, having the last few weeks been involved in workshops on 10+ languages, it will be easier to explain the functionality when it is available on all of them.
Big thanks for this!
*Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48
2013/10/22 Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org
this is really exciting, congrats!
On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflaschen@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 10/22/2013 03:41 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Greetings!
I'm excited to share the good news that we just released Notifications on most wikis around the world today!
This major release includes about 752 sites, ranging from sister projects like Commons and Wiktionary, to remaining Wikipedias in almost all languages. These wikis now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled, as listed here. (1)
Congratulations to the whole team! This is an important milestone, and
I look forward to seeing how wikis can leverage it. In addition to universal features like user talk notifications and mentions, wikis with custom extensions may find it useful for those extensions to also send notifications.
Matt Flaschen
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
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Thank you all for your gracious support -- we couldn't have made it without the help of so many community and team members on this list.
I'm delighted that this project enabled us to work collaboratively with each other -- with a productive outcome that makes us all happy.
Let's aim to have many more constructive collaborations like this one!
Regards as ever,
Fabrice
On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Jan Ainali wrote:
I am especially thrilled about the Commons deployment! This is going to be awesome!
I also noted, having the last few weeks been involved in workshops on 10+ languages, it will be easier to explain the functionality when it is available on all of them.
Big thanks for this!
Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige 0729 - 67 29 48
2013/10/22 Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org this is really exciting, congrats!
On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflaschen@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 10/22/2013 03:41 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Greetings!
I'm excited to share the good news that we just released Notifications on most wikis around the world today!
This major release includes about 752 sites, ranging from sister projects like Commons and Wiktionary, to remaining Wikipedias in almost all languages. These wikis now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled, as listed here. (1)
Congratulations to the whole team! This is an important milestone, and I look forward to seeing how wikis can leverage it. In addition to universal features like user talk notifications and mentions, wikis with custom extensions may find it useful for those extensions to also send notifications.
Matt Flaschen
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
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Congratulations to everyone involved!
Best Michael
2013/10/22 Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org
Greetings!
I'm excited to share the good news that we just released Notifications on most wikis around the world today!
This major release includes about 752 sites, ranging from sister projects like Commons and Wiktionary, to remaining Wikipedias in almost all languages. These wikis now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled, as listed here. (1)
If you are active in a community where we just released Echo, we would be grateful if you could quickly test that Notifications work for you -- and let us know if you encounter any issues on this discussion page. (2) We invite you to enable all notifications in your preferences before you test, and follow guidelines from this testing page (3).
We would like to thank all the community and team members who worked together to create this useful tool -- and we are really glad to be bringing it to millions more people around the world. (4)
We hope that many productive collaborations will be enabled by this tool, and make our movement grow further as a result. :)
Enjoy,
Fabrice
P.S.: We have not yet enabled Notifications on the German and Italian Wikipedias, because some of their community members thought that more discussions are needed about this feature. To support this request for more time, we are now targeting the week of November 18 for an Echo deployment on both sites.
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013/Site_List
(2) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo/Release_Plan_2013
(3) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Testing
(4) https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/01/notifications-launch-on-more-wikipedia...
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Hi folks,
I'm happy to let you know that Beta Features and Media Viewer have now been released on Commons and MetaWiki, in addition to MediaWiki.org!
Beta Features (1) is a new program from the Wikimedia Foundation that lets you try out new features before they are released for everyone. Think of it as a digital laboratory where community members can preview upcoming software and give feedback to help improve them. This special preference page lets designers and engineers experiment with new features on a broad scale, but in a way that's not disruptive.
One of the first beta features we will be testing together is Media Viewer (2), which aims to improve the viewing experience by displaying images in larger size and with less clutter than the current file pages. This first version 0.1 is still in early stages of development, with many known bugs, but we invite community feedback right away for this feature, so we can improve it together in coming months. For a sneak peek at the next version 0.2 of the Media Viewer, check out these first mockups. (3)
Beta Features and Media Viewer are now ready for early testing by logged-in users on Wikimedia Commons (4), on Meta.Wikimedia.org (5) and on MediaWiki.org (6). Based on test results, we aim to release these beta features on all wikis worldwide on 21 November, 2013.
Here are some of the other beta features in our pipeline: • VisualEditor Formulæ — edit algebra or equations on your pages (only on MediaWiki.org) (7) • Typography Refresh — make text more readable (scheduled for first release Thursday, 14 November) (8)
Would you like to try out Beta Features and Media Viewer now? After you log in, a small 'Beta' link will appear next to your 'Preferences'. Click on it to see features you can test, check the ones you want, then click 'Save'. After you've tested Beta Features, please let us know what you think on this discussion page (9) -- or report any bugs here on Bugzilla.
You're also welcome to join this IRC office hours chat on Friday, 8 November at 18:30 UTC. (11)
Beta Features and Media Viewer were developed by the Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team, in collaboration with the Design, Mobile and VisualEditor teams. Along with other developers, we will be adding new features to this experimental program every few weeks.
We are very grateful to all the community and team members who made these projects possible — and look forward to many more productive collaborations in the future. :)
Enjoy, and don't forget to let us know what you think!
Fabrice
[ 1 ] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/11/07/introducing-beta-features/ [ 2 ] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer [ 3 ] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer#Next_Version [ 4 ] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafe... [ 5 ] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatu... [ 6 ] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatur... [ 7 ] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Beta_Features/Formulae [ 8 ] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_Update [ 9 ] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:About_Beta_Features [10] http://wmbug.com/new?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=BetaFeatur... [11] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
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On 11/07/2013 06:56 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to let you know that Beta Features and Media Viewer have now been released on Commons and MetaWiki, in addition to MediaWiki.org http://MediaWiki.org!
This is great. Beta Features should be a great way to get early power user feedback.
I'm excited about the potential of Media Viewer too.
I've already enabled "Automatically enable all new beta features" on Commons. I see "Near this page" is now there too.
Matt Flaschen
Hi folks,
I'm happy to report that we just released Notifications on the German and Italian Wikipedias today!
This is an important milestone for all of us, because it marks the successful completion of Echo's first release, now that Notifications have been deployed on over 800 different sites worldwide. (1)
This final release on German and Italian wikis was pushed back so that their communities could discuss and better prepare for this new tool. They now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled -- and development has started for a special FlaggedRevs notification, which will give more positive feedback for user contributions on the German Wikipedia.
If you are active in either community, we invite you to check that Notifications work for you (be sure to enable all notifications in your preferences before you test). We also encourage you to participate in the discussions on these sites, if you are fluent in German or Italian. (2) (3)
I would like to give special thanks to Denis Barthel, Jan Eissfeldt and Erica Litrenta for spearheading this final outreach, as well as to community members se4598, TMg and Nemo -- and to developers Benny Situ, Kunal Mehta and Bartosz Dziewoński for all your fine work in improving this tool and bringing it to your communities!
Going forward, any new features or notifications will be developed by the teams and communities that need them. We are really happy to have provided this much-needed platform for supporting more productive collaborations on our sites.
It's been a true pleasure working with each of you on this project. I look forward to seeing it grow over time, as I switch my focus to developing new multimedia tools (4) for our users. :)
Regards as ever,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
(2) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe_Diskussion:Echo
(3) https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_Wikipedia:Notifiche
(4) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia
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Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I'm happy to report that we just released Notifications on the German and Italian Wikipedias today!
This is an important milestone for all of us, because it marks the successful completion of Echo's first release, now that Notifications have been deployed on over 800 different sites worldwide. (1)
This final release on German and Italian wikis was pushed back so that their communities could discuss and better prepare for this new tool. They now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled -- and development has started for a special FlaggedRevs notification, which will give more positive feedback for user contributions on the German Wikipedia.
If you are active in either community, we invite you to check that Notifications work for you (be sure to enable all notifications in your preferences before you test). We also encourage you to participate in the discussions on these sites, if you are fluent in German or Italian. (2) (3)
I would like to give special thanks to Denis Barthel, Jan Eissfeldt and Erica Litrenta for spearheading this final outreach, as well as to community members se4598, TMg and Nemo -- and to developers Benny Situ, Kunal Mehta and Bartosz Dziewoński for all your fine work in improving this tool and bringing it to your communities!
Going forward, any new features or notifications will be developed by the teams and communities that need them. We are really happy to have provided this much-needed platform for supporting more productive collaborations on our sites.
It's been a true pleasure working with each of you on this project. I look forward to seeing it grow over time, as I switch my focus to developing new multimedia tools (4) for our users. :)
This is wonderful news. Many thanks to all who made it happen.
Great news!
Congratulations to everyone who were behind this.
Cheers from India. Vishnu
On 21 November 2013 06:46, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to report that we just released Notifications on the German and Italian Wikipedias today!
This is an important milestone for all of us, because it marks the successful completion of Echo's first release, now that Notifications have been deployed on over 800 different sites worldwide. (1)
This final release on German and Italian wikis was pushed back so that their communities could discuss and better prepare for this new tool. They now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled -- and development has started for a special FlaggedRevs notification, which will give more positive feedback for user contributions on the German Wikipedia.
If you are active in either community, we invite you to check that Notifications work for you (be sure to enable all notifications in your preferences before you test). We also encourage you to participate in the discussions on these sites, if you are fluent in German or Italian. (2) (3)
I would like to give special thanks to Denis Barthel, Jan Eissfeldt and Erica Litrenta for spearheading this final outreach, as well as to community members se4598, TMg and Nemo -- and to developers Benny Situ, Kunal Mehta and Bartosz Dziewoński for all your fine work in improving this tool and bringing it to your communities!
Going forward, any new features or notifications will be developed by the teams and communities that need them. We are really happy to have provided this much-needed platform for supporting more productive collaborations on our sites.
It's been a true pleasure working with each of you on this project. I look forward to seeing it grow over time, as I switch my focus to developing new multimedia tools (4) for our users. :)
Regards as ever,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
(2) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe_Diskussion:Echo
(3) https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_Wikipedia:Notifiche
(4) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
Thanks, Fabrice and everyone else involved, for your work!
I have already tested thanking people and being thanked – it's fantastic.
Cheers from Berlin, Nicole
On 21 November 2013 07:11, Vishnu T visdaviva@gmail.com wrote:
Great news!
Congratulations to everyone who were behind this.
Cheers from India. Vishnu
On 21 November 2013 06:46, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to report that we just released Notifications on the German and Italian Wikipedias today!
This is an important milestone for all of us, because it marks the successful completion of Echo's first release, now that Notifications have been deployed on over 800 different sites worldwide. (1)
This final release on German and Italian wikis was pushed back so that their communities could discuss and better prepare for this new tool. They now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled -- and development has started for a special FlaggedRevs notification, which will give more positive feedback for user contributions on the German Wikipedia.
If you are active in either community, we invite you to check that Notifications work for you (be sure to enable all notifications in your preferences before you test). We also encourage you to participate in the discussions on these sites, if you are fluent in German or Italian. (2) (3)
I would like to give special thanks to Denis Barthel, Jan Eissfeldt and Erica Litrenta for spearheading this final outreach, as well as to community members se4598, TMg and Nemo -- and to developers Benny Situ, Kunal Mehta and Bartosz Dziewoński for all your fine work in improving this tool and bringing it to your communities!
Going forward, any new features or notifications will be developed by the teams and communities that need them. We are really happy to have provided this much-needed platform for supporting more productive collaborations on our sites.
It's been a true pleasure working with each of you on this project. I look forward to seeing it grow over time, as I switch my focus to developing new multimedia tools (4) for our users. :)
Regards as ever,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
(2) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe_Diskussion:Echo
(3) https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_Wikipedia:Notifiche
(4) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
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I added echo dashboards for itwiki and dewiki here:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/dewiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/itwiki-features
Dario
On Nov 21, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Thanks, Fabrice and everyone else involved, for your work!
I have already tested thanking people and being thanked – it's fantastic.
Cheers from Berlin, Nicole
On 21 November 2013 07:11, Vishnu T visdaviva@gmail.com wrote:
Great news!
Congratulations to everyone who were behind this.
Cheers from India. Vishnu
On 21 November 2013 06:46, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to report that we just released Notifications on the German and Italian Wikipedias today!
This is an important milestone for all of us, because it marks the successful completion of Echo's first release, now that Notifications have been deployed on over 800 different sites worldwide. (1)
This final release on German and Italian wikis was pushed back so that their communities could discuss and better prepare for this new tool. They now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled -- and development has started for a special FlaggedRevs notification, which will give more positive feedback for user contributions on the German Wikipedia.
If you are active in either community, we invite you to check that Notifications work for you (be sure to enable all notifications in your preferences before you test). We also encourage you to participate in the discussions on these sites, if you are fluent in German or Italian. (2) (3)
I would like to give special thanks to Denis Barthel, Jan Eissfeldt and Erica Litrenta for spearheading this final outreach, as well as to community members se4598, TMg and Nemo -- and to developers Benny Situ, Kunal Mehta and Bartosz Dziewoński for all your fine work in improving this tool and bringing it to your communities!
Going forward, any new features or notifications will be developed by the teams and communities that need them. We are really happy to have provided this much-needed platform for supporting more productive collaborations on our sites.
It's been a true pleasure working with each of you on this project. I look forward to seeing it grow over time, as I switch my focus to developing new multimedia tools (4) for our users. :)
Regards as ever,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
(2) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe_Diskussion:Echo
(3) https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_Wikipedia:Notifiche
(4) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
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-- Nicole Ebber International Affairs
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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Hi guys,
Thanks so much for your kind words -- and kudos to everyone who helped with this release!
Reports so far seem quite favorable on both German and Italian sites.
Here's Erica Litrenta's update about the Italian Wikipedia response so far:
"Everything looks quiet after all, there's one user who does not manage to see properly the top part of the page on mobile, but he'll report about this later, he said. A WM IT board member espressed concern over the visibility of messages in talk page now that the big bar is gone. Someone provided the code/gadget option to still have a sort of big orange bar, so nostalgic people will be fine. "
Here's Denis Barthel's update about the German Wikipedia response so far:
"Echo is explored and played around with by the community since this afternoon and receives an interested and slightly benevolent response. … “Thanks” of course causes some surprising reminders that “Wikipedia is not Facebook” and the fact that one receives notifications when bots mention your name is found a bit irritating, but no one is really upset or hostile and the moanings dwindle through the exploration of Echo’s configurational possibilities.
Some community members really appreciate the possibility of saying thanks and obviously hope, that it could give Wikipedia a more positive turn in general. I have to admit, that I personally think so too. Thanks for the deployment from me to all of you who took care of it."
And here's se4598's report from a German Wikipedia community volunteer's perspective:
"Some discussions about pinging on our vandalism-report page by bots, which are now blacklisted, but also post on user pages. Discussions about the public! Thanks-log. Question, about a information that echo is (in a reduced function) also for anons. Mostly the responses are positive, also about Thanks."
Lastly, Tilman Bayer just shared this link to this positive media coverage about Thanks from Heise Online: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Danke-statt-Like-Wikipedia-wird-sozia... (the writer, Torsten Kleinz, has been covering Wikipedia frequently for about a decade)
I am delighted to hear that overall response is favorable and that there are no serious issues from our German or Italian communities. I am particularly happy to hear the favorable responses about Thanks, which a number of German and Italian users had told us would not be well received.
Most importantly, I am glad that our careful approach with the pre-announcement and advance outreach to address community concerns seems to be working. It's processes like these that can build stronger relations across our movement.
Thanks to everyone for your good updates, which are much appreciated!
Last but not least, many thanks to Dario for somehow finding the time in his busy schedule to whip out some dashboards to track notifications on both sites. Way to go, DarTar!
Onward!
Fabrice
On Nov 21, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Dario Taraborelli wrote:
I added echo dashboards for itwiki and dewiki here:
http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/dewiki-features http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/itwiki-features
Dario
On Nov 21, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Thanks, Fabrice and everyone else involved, for your work!
I have already tested thanking people and being thanked – it's fantastic.
Cheers from Berlin, Nicole
On 21 November 2013 07:11, Vishnu T visdaviva@gmail.com wrote:
Great news!
Congratulations to everyone who were behind this.
Cheers from India. Vishnu
On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Steven Walling wrote:
This is wonderful news. Many thanks to all who made it happen.
-- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/
On 21 November 2013 06:46, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to report that we just released Notifications on the German and Italian Wikipedias today!
This is an important milestone for all of us, because it marks the successful completion of Echo's first release, now that Notifications have been deployed on over 800 different sites worldwide. (1)
This final release on German and Italian wikis was pushed back so that their communities could discuss and better prepare for this new tool. They now have both Echo and Thanks extensions enabled -- and development has started for a special FlaggedRevs notification, which will give more positive feedback for user contributions on the German Wikipedia.
If you are active in either community, we invite you to check that Notifications work for you (be sure to enable all notifications in your preferences before you test). We also encourage you to participate in the discussions on these sites, if you are fluent in German or Italian. (2) (3)
I would like to give special thanks to Denis Barthel, Jan Eissfeldt and Erica Litrenta for spearheading this final outreach, as well as to community members se4598, TMg and Nemo -- and to developers Benny Situ, Kunal Mehta and Bartosz Dziewoński for all your fine work in improving this tool and bringing it to your communities!
Going forward, any new features or notifications will be developed by the teams and communities that need them. We are really happy to have provided this much-needed platform for supporting more productive collaborations on our sites.
It's been a true pleasure working with each of you on this project. I look forward to seeing it grow over time, as I switch my focus to developing new multimedia tools (4) for our users. :)
Regards as ever,
Fabrice
(1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Release_Plan_2013
(2) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe_Diskussion:Echo
(3) https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_Wikipedia:Notifiche
(4) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia
Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
-- Nicole Ebber International Affairs
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
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Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation