Excuse me while I spend the night creepily refreshing the tables on stat1
and grinning maniacally...
Thank you, everyone! This will be a huge boon to the mobile team's ability
to improve and iterate on new features. And if E3 ever feels like running
some mobile experiments – you know who to call :)
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Arthur Richards <arichards(a)wikimedia.org>wrote:
> high five!
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Ori Livneh <ori(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> Not without a hiccup or three, but: http://i.imgur.com/gBkkznU.png :)
>> Thanks for all the cross-team collab -- specifically Maryana, S, Matthew,
>> Dario, Jon, Arthur and MaxSem.
> Arthur Richards
> Software Engineer, Mobile
> IRC: awjr
> +1-415-839-6885 x6687
Associate Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation
Here's the lowdown on new work we deployed today on the Editor Engagement
- GuidedTour is now added to frwiki, dewiki, bewiki, mkwiki,
mediawiki.org, and outreachwiki. (I added announcements to the German
and French Village Pumps.)
- We enabled a 50/50 split test of the "getting started" tour on English
Wikipedia (try it on any article with ?tour=gettingstarted at the end of
the URL). We did this in order to measure the impact of the tour on the
ability of new folks to complete their first edit, and find their way back
to Special:GettingStarted if they want.
- We deployed bug fixes and enhancements to PostEdit, including...
- The popup displayed on a new tab after submit, bug 41805
- We made it easier to close, bug 41323
- We increased the time on screen from 2 to 3 seconds, bug 41512
- We made a fix to the way it looks in Monobook, bug 41240
Hi, in Special gadgets on it.wikivoyage I import your script. I think your project is a great idea and I want to create a guided tour (in italian) to show this tool to other italian wikis like Wikipedia for example. I read Guided tours#User script, but I have not understood how to create a new tour. Thank you if you decide to explain it to me. :) Raoli 03:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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From: Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM
Subject: IRC office hours with the Editor Engagement Experiments team
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
This Wednesday at 22:00 UTC, there will be an open discussion in
#wikimedia-office with our team, Editor Engagement Experiments.
We've launched several new features since our last office hours --
including interactive "guided tours" and a getting started page for
newly-registered Wikipedians. We'll likely discuss these projects,
including testing results so far, as well as any questions people might
Do people think it's possible to make a good tour on making tours?
Currently, the test tour has essentially a redlink (or redbutton) for this.
It would probably go like:
1. Enter such and such text (page name in MW namespace) into search box.
2. Create page (with a guider linking to the docs on the edit page).
It could also have part of the tour point them to editing an on-wiki
page for tour content (getPageAsDescription).
But I don't know if this is a good use of a tour or not. What do you think?
Even if we make such a tour, we're thinking of dropping the link going
there from the test tour.
We would be grateful for your advice on how to give more positive notifications to new users after their first edits.
We're looking for notification ideas that could lead new editors towards a "happy path" to encourage further contributions. Many studies have shown that positive reinforcement plays an important role in increasing a user's productivity, and we would like to provide at least one or two good solutions to support that goal in the first release of Echo at the end of March.
Here are some of the ideas which we have brainstormed to date, on our Echo feature requirements page:
* Useful edit notification
This feature would add a 'Mark as useful' button in article history and/or diff pages, to invite experienced editors to mark edits they find useful, so they can send positive feedback to new editors. This could be done through a simple text link next to each edit (e.g. next to 'Undo'): 'Mark as useful' (or 'Useful' for short). When an editor clicks on that link, this notification would be sent to the new editor: 'Kaldari marked your edit as useful on Golden-crowned Sparrow. <View your edit>'
* Huggle/Cluebot Notifications
This feature would hook into third-party anti-vandalism tools like Huggle or ClueBot. Some of these tools could be adapted to provide an "approve of edit" button (Huggle already has such a feature), which could send a notification to the user who made the 'good' edit saying something like "this was good! Keep it up".
* Contributions since your last edit
Another feature we discussed is giving new users a bundled notification that '20 people have contributed to this page since your last edit'. While this type of activity is currently handled by the watchlist, this type of 'contributions' notification could have a positive impact in getting the new user to go back to a page they edited earlier (particularly if they don't yet feel motivated to use the watchlist).
* Positive notifications for active new users
We have already identified a number of positive notification ideas for active new users, which include: WikiLove, Page Link, or Page added to WikiProject. While these positive notifications are likely to motivate active new users, a challenge we face is how to give positive reinforcement to new editors immediately after their first few edits, before they become active enough to start new pages or be noticed for a WikiLove message.
What do you think of these first ideas? None of them may be perfect in their current formulation, but with your help, we could be improve them to provide a practical solution that helps engage new users to participate more productively. With everyone's guidance, we can do better than only send them negative notifications when their edits are reverted (which is like a slap in the face) -- or sending them no notifications whatsoever after their first edits (which is what we are doing now).
Do you have other ideas for positive notifications we could be sending to new users?
You are welcome to respond in this email thread, or add your comments or suggestions on this Echo talk page.
Thanks for any tips or ideas you can provide to help us with this important editor engagement goal!
All the best,
Product Manager, Editor Engagement
[For new folks to this list: we regularly make announcements about the
weekly software deployments by features teams, especially the editor
First up, Matt Flaschen deployed a new extension which I'm very excited
about: Guided Tour. There will be a blog post tomorrow, but for an idea of
what it's all about, see the project page at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Guided_tours or visit
https://en.wikipedia.org?tour=test to see a meta-tour. (There are some
redlinks we're still filling in there).
Next updates for Guided Tour are to deploy outside of English Wikipedia -
likely French, German, and Dutch first - and enable an automatic tour for
all users who accept tasks at Special:GettingStarted. You can see it by
visiting one of those articles while logged in, and appending
Associated with this change, we updated several other extensions. In
particular, we removed the orange tooltip which points new editors to the
is a great feature, but the tooltip first appeared when you viewed the edit
window. We do want to make sure newbies know they can leave feedback via
that feature, but we don't want to interrupt people who've clicked edit,
especially for the first time.
Last but not least: congrats to Matt for deploying a ton of work. Adding a
new extension and updating four others is no small feat.