On 1 February 2013 23:17, Ori Livneh <olivneh(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
It could work, but not the way things are currently
instrumented, IMO. To
make a tour, you need to edit the MediaWiki namespace; to edit the
MediaWiki namespace you need to be a privileged user; to be a privileged
user, you typically need to demonstrate considerable proficiency with
MediaWiki. Highly proficient users of any software platform tend to find
hand-holding unwelcome, since it intrudes upon existing workflows. The
questions that such proficient users might have about tour-creation are not
likely to be the ones that a guided tour is well-designed to answer.
If it were possible for novice users to create guided tours, this idea
would be more viable and attractive.
I know we actually have quite a few administrators who would be interested
in this;
the questions are more (a) can they grok the newb mentality, or
(b) can we partner them with a newcomer who better understands newcomer
mentalities
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Ori Livneh
On Friday, February 1, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Do people think it's possible to make a good
tour on making tours?
Currently, the test tour has essentially a redlink (or redbutton) for
this.
It would probably go like:
1. Enter such and such text (page name in MW namespace) into search box.
2. Create page (with a guider linking to the docs on the edit page).
3. Save
It could also have part of the tour point them to editing an on-wiki
page for tour content (getPageAsDescription).
But I don't know if this is a good use of a tour or not. What do you
think?
Even if we make such a tour, we're thinking of dropping the link going
there from the test tour.
Matt Flaschen
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