As I said. I can see both sides of the argument. I'll say it again:
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I can imagine some useful metrics might be as follows: For a given page that we decide to run an A/B test on...
* Given a page has all sections expanded by default how many sections are closed * Given a page has all sections collapsed by default how many sections are opened * Given a page has all sections expanded when the reader leaves the page what is the furthest open section they view in the visible viewport area of the screen - calculate average * Given a page has all sections collapsed when the reader leaves the page what is the furthest open section that they reach - calculate average
I would say we should be optimising for: * the lower amount of clicks (better experience for the user all round) * for the furthest down the page (measures engagement of article)
In terms of results if the results highly favour one situation we should use that situation If the results show a 50/50 split / are inconclusive this suggests a preference/button would be the way to go.
We may also want to record referrer as certain behaviours might be favoured when coming from a google search result over coming from a wikipedia mobile link/search result.
If this sounds like a good starting point we can start developing a schema on the wiki?
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM, James Alexander jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
[that said a 'collapse all' certainly helps my concerns, since I can just click that]
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:48 PM, James Alexander jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not sure I agree with Steven's assessment that this will make navigating between sections difficult - behaviour gets reverted - you close the section to see the next section. This is akin to flicking through a book and flicking to the next page (closing the section) if the heading at the top of the page doesn't interest you. It just means you don't see all the headings in one go which could be a good or bad thing.
Right... but if you don't actually see the other sections you have to start closing them all to find out what is actually available. I know, at least in my case, that will likely mean I just navigate away (or switch to desktop view). In general I've found that what you 'see' at the start is very important. Honestly I'm surprised it's even a question.. I can see arguments for it being uncollapsed by default (find on page etc, even if I don't agree with them) but there is little doubt in my mind that it hurts the easy navigation. This is especially true without a table of contents (which the compressed sections basically acted as), in a book you don't just flick to the next page, you look at the TOC and know where to go.
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