I had a chat with paper scrunching Moiz in person. To reiterate what I said there - as stated in my first email "I wanted to discuss whether this is a good idea?" To be clear I was never saying it was a bad idea. My original mail was just curious to the motivating factors to why we are doing it and what we are achieving and most specifically for me whether mobile web should be experimenting with it too. We should definitely try this out and see what happens.
Max has identified that this happens already on Russian Wikipedia and Amir that this happens on Hebrew and Polish and I didn't know that. There is also a widely used gadget. Those are interesting data points.
Steven has identified a problem you have with what summaries get canned. This is now a shared problem.
This is why we discuss these things to understand them and end up building the right and the best thing.
Please keep us up to date with designs. Maybe a volunteer might be interested in knocking this up for mobile web..?
I'd love to see any other findings you've made.
To wrap this conversation up can you share the link to the relevant trello card (I couldnt find it) or wherever is the best place to find your most up to date designs for this so if a volunteer/future me wants to work on this they can do so? On 11 Mar 2014 06:43, "Amir E. Aharoni" amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
2014-03-11 1:00 GMT+02:00 Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com:
On 11.03.2014, 1:32 Jon wrote:
The interface showed various buttons that when clicked would populate the edit summary input. e.g. "Fixed typos/grammar" or "Added links")
I wanted to discuss whether this is a good idea?
Russian Wikipedia was doing that for ages to everyone's satisfaction. The only problem is where to cram them in, but that's solvable.
Hebrew and Polish Wikipedias are doing it for ages, too, and probably some other languages.
In fact, numerous people complained that VisualEditor breaks this feature. Editors don't care whether it's a local custom gadget or something else - for all they care, it's a feature and VE breaks it.
Anyway, it would be a lovely feature to productize and make available for all languages, for both mobile and desktop interfaces. The code is basically there - just take the gadget from one of the Wikipedias that currently use it and package it as an extension.
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