The fact we are having this conversation (regardless of what the answer is) suggests that trello represents a significant hurdle to community involvement, which i would consider a bad thing.
-bawolff
On Mar 25, 2014 6:19 PM, "Quiddity" pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
Afaik, To comment on a card, one has to: A) create a Trello account and B) be attached as a member to the particular Trello Board [Or C) be assigned as a Trello-account admin]
Ie. someone cannot instantly start adding comments, as soon as they
create an account. They have to be manually approved by one of the Board or Trello-account admins.
On 14-03-25 02:05 PM, Jared Zimmerman wrote:
Yuvi, that board is public and accepts comments as long as you make a trello account. A community member and I worked through it.
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda@gmail.com mailto:yuvipanda@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Jared Zimmerman <jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org <mailto:jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org>> wrote: If that can be communicated here https://trello.com/c/VKhizomH/3-icons-for-code-editor I can prioritize and figure out resources and time to get it done. Community members cannot edit or comment on Trello (at least that
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Trello is definitely designed more for small-teams to work efficiently together, rather than as a discussion platform for hundreds of participants. Anyway, it'd be better to discuss all that at the talkpage of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_management_tools/Review/Options or similar, rather than the design mailing list. (And dream of a future with Flow and wikitext and SUL integrated into Phabricator, perhaps. :)
On 14-03-25 02:42 PM, bawolff wrote:
The fact we are having this conversation (regardless of what the answer is) suggests that trello represents a significant hurdle to community involvement, which i would consider a bad thing.
-bawolff
On Mar 25, 2014 6:19 PM, "Quiddity" <pandiculation@gmail.com
mailto:pandiculation@gmail.com> wrote:
Afaik, To comment on a card, one has to: A) create a Trello account and B) be attached as a member to the particular Trello Board [Or C) be assigned as a Trello-account admin]
Ie. someone cannot instantly start adding comments, as soon as they
create an account. They have to be manually approved by one of the Board or Trello-account admins.
On 14-03-25 02:05 PM, Jared Zimmerman wrote:
Yuvi, that board is public and accepts comments as long as you make a trello account. A community member and I worked through it.
*Jared Zimmerman *\Director of User Experience \Wikimedia Foundation M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmerman
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda@gmail.com
<mailto:yuvipanda@gmail.com mailto:yuvipanda@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Jared Zimmerman <jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.orgmailto:jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org
<mailto:jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.orgmailto:jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
If that can be communicated herehttps://trello.com/c/VKhizomH/3-icons-for-code-editor I can prioritize and figure out resources and time to get it done.
Community members cannot edit or comment on Trello (at leastthat is
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:42 PM, bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
The fact we are having this conversation (regardless of what the answer is) suggests that trello represents a significant hurdle to community involvement, which i would consider a bad thing.
-bawolff
Looking at this objectively a public trello board requires a log in in order to comment.
That's the same as bugzilla, gerrit, and many of our community tools.
--tomasz
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:42 PM, bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
The fact we are having this conversation (regardless of what the answer is) suggests that trello represents a significant hurdle to community involvement, which i would consider a bad thing.
Yeah we can just do this on mediawiki.org, on a CodeEditor extension doc.
As Tomasz pointed out the barriers are no greater than any other service we use. so there is that. Also we're at the point where there is an actual ask which need prioritization, having it on a wikipage is great for conversation but does nothing to help me prioritize it against other work my team is doing.
I'm trying to make it as easy as possible for community members to make asks of the Design team, and make UX review requests, but its a balancing act, and our time is valuable too, so we have to meet in the middle. I'm happy to iterate on the process, but this is where we are for now.
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:42 PM, bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
The fact we are having this conversation (regardless of what the answer is) suggests that trello represents a significant hurdle to community involvement, which i would consider a bad thing.
Yeah we can just do this on mediawiki.org, on a CodeEditor extension doc.
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