Hallo.
DYK: The first commit in the MediaWiki source repo is the change from "Older versions" to "Page history".[1]
Does anybody think that calling the "history" tab "history" is really very good?
Version "history" is a rather technical term that not all people who aren't developers necessarily. understand without explanation. This becomes even more confusing on a site like Wikipedia, many of whose pages deal with History. This is anecdotal, but I saw people clicking the "History" tab in the English Wikipedia and getting confused, because they expected to see stuff about generals, monarchs and discoveries. Calling it "View history" is not much better.
"Older versions" or "previous versions" or something along these lines describes the essence of the link more precisely and clearly.
My home wiki, the Hebrew Wikipedia, calls the history tab "Previous versions", even though in MessagesHe.php it's translated as "History". I went to all the other Wikipedias that have over 50,000 articles and found interesting results. Wikipedias in 7 languages don't call this tab "history" or "view history", but rather: German: Version history Italian: Chronology Polish: History and authors Indonesian: Previous versions Hebrew: Previous versions Croatian: Show older changes Latvian: Chronology
It's not a majority, but it does show some interesting variety, which must not be ignored.
So I'm asking the experienced design people and anybody else who has an opinion: Now that we are talking so much about major design changes (Winter, etc.), can we consider changing this as well?
[1] http://git.wikimedia.org/commitdiff/mediawiki%2Fcore/bdf01f1062405e1f2b46a91...
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I'm mobile design gave us a huge amount of useful direction on this.
As a result we say last modified 3 minutes ago by Amir with 3 minutes ago linking to history and Amir linking to information about you.
Much nicer I think... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History?mobileaction=beta On 8 Feb 2014 03:56, "Amir E. Aharoni" amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hallo.
DYK: The first commit in the MediaWiki source repo is the change from "Older versions" to "Page history".[1]
Does anybody think that calling the "history" tab "history" is really very good?
Version "history" is a rather technical term that not all people who aren't developers necessarily. understand without explanation. This becomes even more confusing on a site like Wikipedia, many of whose pages deal with History. This is anecdotal, but I saw people clicking the "History" tab in the English Wikipedia and getting confused, because they expected to see stuff about generals, monarchs and discoveries. Calling it "View history" is not much better.
"Older versions" or "previous versions" or something along these lines describes the essence of the link more precisely and clearly.
My home wiki, the Hebrew Wikipedia, calls the history tab "Previous versions", even though in MessagesHe.php it's translated as "History". I went to all the other Wikipedias that have over 50,000 articles and found interesting results. Wikipedias in 7 languages don't call this tab "history" or "view history", but rather: German: Version history Italian: Chronology Polish: History and authors Indonesian: Previous versions Hebrew: Previous versions Croatian: Show older changes Latvian: Chronology
It's not a majority, but it does show some interesting variety, which must not be ignored.
So I'm asking the experienced design people and anybody else who has an opinion: Now that we are talking so much about major design changes (Winter, etc.), can we consider changing this as well?
[1] http://git.wikimedia.org/commitdiff/mediawiki%2Fcore/bdf01f1062405e1f2b46a91...
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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Jon Robson, 08/02/2014 15:48:
I'm mobile design gave us a huge amount of useful direction on this.
As a result we say last modified 3 minutes ago by Amir with 3 minutes ago linking to history and Amir linking to information about you.
Well, that's ancient stuff, apart from the controversial addition of the "by X" part. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LastModified It was decided to implement it in core but it got lost before getting to a PHP implementation, it seems.
Nemo