Hi everyone,
For curious, I wanted to share a quick update on the typography refresh. The following four recent pieces of news that should be of interest...
1). The French Wikipedia community closed their vote on most aspects of the new design (color, size, new headers, etc.) and it was very much in favor of keeping the new design in all aspects.[a]
2). Spanish Wikipedians also closed their vote, which was more of a simple yes/no on whether to revert. This was also in favor of keeping the new design.[b]
3). Jon Robson has put up a patch to allow LESS styles to be set per-language.[c] This means that many local site hacks, like Japanese Wikipedia removing the serif headers or Farsi Wikipedia having to set completely different Farsi-friendly fonts, will potentially no longer be necessary. Review and testing is needed!
4). For some time now MediaWiki.org and the test replica of English Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org) have been using a new proposed body font stack by Erwin Dokter. This puts Nimbus Sans L first, and restores the other body font settings like Helvetica Neue for Mac users, Arial for all Windows users etc. Please try it out, especially if you're on Windows or Linux. We'd like to put this in Vector/core at some point, if we can make sure it works.
Thanks!
a. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Prise_de_d%C3%A9cision/Affichag... b. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2014/Sobre_la_actualizaci... c. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125760/
It's actually fairly hard to find Nimbus Sans L for download by itself (rather than as part of the Ghostscript package). Here's one place that seems to have it, though: http://ufonts.com/fonts/nimbus-sans-l-regular.html
Ryan Kaldari
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi everyone,
For curious, I wanted to share a quick update on the typography refresh. The following four recent pieces of news that should be of interest...
1). The French Wikipedia community closed their vote on most aspects of the new design (color, size, new headers, etc.) and it was very much in favor of keeping the new design in all aspects.[a]
2). Spanish Wikipedians also closed their vote, which was more of a simple yes/no on whether to revert. This was also in favor of keeping the new design.[b]
3). Jon Robson has put up a patch to allow LESS styles to be set per-language.[c] This means that many local site hacks, like Japanese Wikipedia removing the serif headers or Farsi Wikipedia having to set completely different Farsi-friendly fonts, will potentially no longer be necessary. Review and testing is needed!
4). For some time now MediaWiki.org and the test replica of English Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org) have been using a new proposed body font stack by Erwin Dokter. This puts Nimbus Sans L first, and restores the other body font settings like Helvetica Neue for Mac users, Arial for all Windows users etc. Please try it out, especially if you're on Windows or Linux. We'd like to put this in Vector/core at some point, if we can make sure it works.
Thanks!
a. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Prise_de_d%C3%A9cision/Affichag... b. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2014/Sobre_la_actualizaci... c. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125760/
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Thank you for the update Steven, Its good to hear that there were other projects that had a great rollout experience free of some of the worse bugs that en.wiki users seemed to run into, I wonder how much effect this had on their acceptance of the changes in the end.
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi everyone,
For curious, I wanted to share a quick update on the typography refresh. The following four recent pieces of news that should be of interest...
1). The French Wikipedia community closed their vote on most aspects of the new design (color, size, new headers, etc.) and it was very much in favor of keeping the new design in all aspects.[a]
2). Spanish Wikipedians also closed their vote, which was more of a simple yes/no on whether to revert. This was also in favor of keeping the new design.[b]
3). Jon Robson has put up a patch to allow LESS styles to be set per-language.[c] This means that many local site hacks, like Japanese Wikipedia removing the serif headers or Farsi Wikipedia having to set completely different Farsi-friendly fonts, will potentially no longer be necessary. Review and testing is needed!
4). For some time now MediaWiki.org and the test replica of English Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org) have been using a new proposed body font stack by Erwin Dokter. This puts Nimbus Sans L first, and restores the other body font settings like Helvetica Neue for Mac users, Arial for all Windows users etc. Please try it out, especially if you're on Windows or Linux. We'd like to put this in Vector/core at some point, if we can make sure it works.
Thanks!
a. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Prise_de_d%C3%A9cision/Affichag... b. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2014/Sobre_la_actualizaci... c. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125760/
-- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/
Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jared Zimmerman < jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Thank you for the update Steven, Its good to hear that there were other projects that had a great rollout experience free of some of the worse bugs that en.wiki users seemed to run into, I wonder how much effect this had on their acceptance of the changes in the end.
Yeah, I mean in the end the English Wikipedia complaints died off too. There isn't any more discussion on the Village Pump technical or anywhere else that I can see.