This showed up in my Google alerts. This one looks a lot like the existing mobile website... :)
http://www.psfk.com/2014/02/wikipedia-design-layout-change.html/wikipedia-re...
Oh, joy. Another group of people who don’t understand that the multiple languages thing is Wikipedia’s *most important feature* so they of course scrap it entirely.
I can’t zoom in on the photos but that looks like a serif font for everything, so I guess dyslexics aren’t supposed to use this, either.
Design is easy when you don’t have to worry about real-world constraints.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
This showed up in my Google alerts. This one looks a lot like the existing mobile website... :)
http://www.psfk.com/2014/02/wikipedia-design-layout-change.html/wikipedia-re...
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Here's their original post - bigger pics and explanation http://blog.weare1910.com/post/75576312730/a-readable-wikipedia Because they have no constraints, they could have done so much better! Not very creative or inspiring
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Brandon Harris bharris@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Oh, joy. Another group of people who don't understand that themultiple languages thing is Wikipedia's *most important feature* so they of course scrap it entirely.
I can't zoom in on the photos but that looks like a serif font foreverything, so I guess dyslexics aren't supposed to use this, either.
Design is easy when you don't have to worry about real-worldconstraints.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
This showed up in my Google alerts. This one looks a lot like the existing mobile website... :)
http://www.psfk.com/2014/02/wikipedia-design-layout-change.html/wikipedia-re...
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To their credit, they do have a World icon, in large view it has "English" next to it.
Zooming shows they use Helvetica. http://weare1910.com/sites/default/files/project/wikipedia_new_desktop_full....
There is no evidence all serif fonts are worse for dyslexics. Some some serif fonts perform adequately. You can't throw away all serif fonts just because some perform poorly, unfortunately it’s not that simple. http://www.luzrello.com/Publications_files/assets2013.pdf
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Kaity Hammerstein khammerstein@wikimedia.org wrote:
Here's their original post - bigger pics and explanation http://blog.weare1910.com/post/75576312730/a-readable-wikipedia Because they have no constraints, they could have done so much better! Not very creative or inspiring
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Brandon Harris bharris@wikimedia.org wrote:
Oh, joy. Another group of people who don’t understand that themultiple languages thing is Wikipedia’s *most important feature* so they of course scrap it entirely.
I can’t zoom in on the photos but that looks like a serif font foreverything, so I guess dyslexics aren’t supposed to use this, either.
Design is easy when you don’t have to worry about real-worldconstraints.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
This showed up in my Google alerts. This one looks a lot like the existing mobile website... :)
http://www.psfk.com/2014/02/wikipedia-design-layout-change.html/wikipedia-re...
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Hey, thanks for sharing that. I though I'd just give my opinion.
*Stuff I agree with:*
1. Typography. The shorter lines with more spacing and bigger type make evereything so much easier to read. Since there's so much text on Wikipedia pages, it's a good idea to give it some room to breathe on the sides. The 'read more' links help removing the skyscrapers of text that the current design suffers from sometimes.
2. Layout I like the simplified one-column layout. Really puts focus on the content.
3. Big ol' search input in the header. Search is easily the most used function, so it's good to make it as accessible as possible.
4. I personally like that they dropped the puzzle-globe, it takes o lot of visual weight from the design. But that's a different discussion.
*Things I disagree with:*
1. Three separate designs for 'desktop', 'tablet' and 'mobile'. Doesn't make sense in today's growing device landscape. What about a 10-inch phone? What about a TV, smart fridge, Google Glass? Responsive design is the way to go.
2. No calls to action are present - Everything is just a text link. I think users should be encouraged to 'create an account' or 'edit the page' by making these things stand out a bit more.
3. These are just pictures of websites. Interactions (as in: what happens when I click the search-bar? What happens if I click the globe) aren't part of this design, even though they are imho just as important as typography and layout.
What do you guys think?
best, max @awesomephant
Language options is really extremely important for Wikimedia projects especially for Wikipedia. But I have a little suggestion is to add a banner at top of the articles like wikivoyage looks like, it helps the user to have a first image of the country or person or thing... Also, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:2014_main_page_redesign_proposal#Pro..., User:Guy Macon proposed a new design of the main page, I personally strongly oppose to this design, how do you guys think of? _______________________________________________ Gabriel Lee, 13, Hong Kong Student, Admin of wy/zh, beta
2014-02-27 14:59 GMT+08:00 Denis Jacquerye moyogo@gmail.com:
To their credit, they do have a World icon, in large view it has "English" next to it.
Zooming shows they use Helvetica.
http://weare1910.com/sites/default/files/project/wikipedia_new_desktop_full....
There is no evidence all serif fonts are worse for dyslexics. Some some serif fonts perform adequately. You can't throw away all serif fonts just because some perform poorly, unfortunately it's not that simple. http://www.luzrello.com/Publications_files/assets2013.pdf
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Kaity Hammerstein khammerstein@wikimedia.org wrote:
Here's their original post - bigger pics and explanation http://blog.weare1910.com/post/75576312730/a-readable-wikipedia Because they have no constraints, they could have done so much better!
Not
very creative or inspiring
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Brandon Harris bharris@wikimedia.org wrote:
Oh, joy. Another group of people who don't understand that themultiple languages thing is Wikipedia's *most important feature* so
they of
course scrap it entirely.
I can't zoom in on the photos but that looks like a serif fontfor
everything, so I guess dyslexics aren't supposed to use this, either.
Design is easy when you don't have to worry about real-worldconstraints.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
This showed up in my Google alerts. This one looks a lot like the existing mobile website... :)
http://www.psfk.com/2014/02/wikipedia-design-layout-change.html/wikipedia-re...
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Dear all, its me again, I have made a really nice design, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gabrielchihonglee/Main_Page, how do you guys think of? _______________________________________________ Gabriel Lee, 13, Hong Kong Student, Admin of wy/zh, beta
2014-02-27 19:02 GMT+08:00 Gabriel Chi Hong Lee chihonglee777@gmail.com:
Language options is really extremely important for Wikimedia projects especially for Wikipedia. But I have a little suggestion is to add a banner at top of the articles like wikivoyage looks like, it helps the user to have a first image of the country or person or thing... Also, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:2014_main_page_redesign_proposal#Pro..., User:Guy Macon proposed a new design of the main page, I personally strongly oppose to this design, how do you guys think of? _______________________________________________ Gabriel Lee, 13, Hong Kong Student, Admin of wy/zh, beta
2014-02-27 14:59 GMT+08:00 Denis Jacquerye moyogo@gmail.com:
To their credit, they do have a World icon, in large view it has
"English" next to it.
Zooming shows they use Helvetica.
http://weare1910.com/sites/default/files/project/wikipedia_new_desktop_full....
There is no evidence all serif fonts are worse for dyslexics. Some some serif fonts perform adequately. You can't throw away all serif fonts just because some perform poorly, unfortunately it's not that simple. http://www.luzrello.com/Publications_files/assets2013.pdf
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Kaity Hammerstein khammerstein@wikimedia.org wrote:
Here's their original post - bigger pics and explanation http://blog.weare1910.com/post/75576312730/a-readable-wikipedia Because they have no constraints, they could have done so much better!
Not
very creative or inspiring
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Brandon Harris <bharris@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Oh, joy. Another group of people who don't understand that themultiple languages thing is Wikipedia's *most important feature* so
they of
course scrap it entirely.
I can't zoom in on the photos but that looks like a serif fontfor
everything, so I guess dyslexics aren't supposed to use this, either.
Design is easy when you don't have to worry about real-worldconstraints.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
This showed up in my Google alerts. This one looks a lot like the existing mobile website... :)
http://www.psfk.com/2014/02/wikipedia-design-layout-change.html/wikipedia-re...
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On 14-02-26 10:23 AM, Jon Robson wrote:
This showed up in my Google alerts. This one looks a lot like the existing mobile website... :)
http://www.psfk.com/2014/02/wikipedia-design-layout-change.html/wikipedia-re...
Thanks for pointing it out. :)
And thank you Atlasowa, for adding it to our helpful compendium at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unsolicited_redesigns