Sorry, but this announcement was frankly too little, too late. I had looked at the Wikimedia blog post, the Noun Project blog post, the eventbrite page, the talk pages of the event pages in mediawiki, meta and wikipedia (btw, why so much duplication? where was the central hub?) and there was nothing even suggesting that remote participation would be possible, or that a hangout could be expected. This is even worse considering that it was asked a while ago ( http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2013-March/000423.html) but nobody seems to have answered.
Apart from that, where were the results posted? All I found were pictures from the event, spread across several categories. I've collected them on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Iconathon_2013 and cleaned up the other categories they were polluting (e.g. Category:I !!). I would expect the results to be uploaded to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:The_Noun_Project but so far I haven't seen any new icons there. Is this coming soon?
Self-answer, after doing a little research: "Afterwards, The Noun Project will take the pen/paper sketches and have their vector artists render them in SVG. They will be released about a month after the event" — from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2013-March/000421.html. Yet this wasn't mentioned anywhere in any of the page I listed above. A "results" section would be most welcome for those who weren't able to participate.
Related, for anyone interested: I recently came across interesting resources for the kinds of icons that the Noun Project seems to focus on, and tried to organize the categories in commons to make them more findable: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Plain_black_icons (and subcategories) and fontello.com (font-based icons, all of them freely licensed).
--Wadir
ps - I don't understand why this announcement wasn't also posted to the design mailing list. I'm CC'ing it.
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Munaf Assaf massaf@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello all,
You can watch the iconathon here: http://youtu.be/sei9SeoObJA
If you would like to participate in the hangout, please email me, Pau Giner (pginer@wikimedia.org) or Vibha Bamba (vbamba@wikimedia.org).
Thanks! Munaf _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
On Monday, April 8, 2013, Waldir Pimenta wrote:
Sorry, but this announcement was frankly too little, too late. I had looked at the Wikimedia blog post, the Noun Project blog post, the eventbrite page, the talk pages of the event pages in mediawiki, meta and wikipedia (btw, why so much duplication? where was the central hub?) and there was nothing even suggesting that remote participation would be possible, or that a hangout could be expected. This is even worse considering that it was asked a while ago ( http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2013-March/000423.html) but nobody seems to have answered.
Apart from that, where were the results posted? All I found were pictures from the event, spread across several categories. I've collected them on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Iconathon_2013 and cleaned up the other categories they were polluting (e.g. Category:I !!). I would expect the results to be uploaded to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:The_Noun_Project but so far I haven't seen any new icons there. Is this coming soon?
Waldir, the event just happened two days ago, and yesterday was a Sunday. Please show a little patience.
The main activity during the event was design work and critique that did not yet involve making permanent digital assets. The core part of this was not making simple black and white SVGs of icons, but churning out as many ideas for representing concepts as possible, which we did collaboratively in groups on paper. Then we sorted and assessed these ideas with lots of back and forth between designers, Wikimedians present, etc.
Now that the idea phase is over and it's time to move toward execution, Vibha and others who ran this will be posting more updates this week. All relevant materials will of course be available for use on Commons.
Self-answer, after doing a little research: "Afterwards, The Noun Project will take the pen/paper sketches and have their vector artists render them in SVG. They will be released about a month after the event" — from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2013-March/000421.html. Yet this wasn't mentioned anywhere in any of the page I listed above. A "results" section would be most welcome for those who weren't able to participate.
Related, for anyone interested: I recently came across interesting resources for the kinds of icons that the Noun Project seems to focus on, and tried to organize the categories in commons to make them more findable: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Plain_black_icons (and subcategories) and fontello.com (font-based icons, all of them freely licensed).
--Wadir
ps - I don't understand why this announcement wasn't also posted to the design mailing list. I'm CC'ing it.
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Munaf Assaf <massaf@wikimedia.org<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'massaf@wikimedia.org');>
wrote:
Hello all,
You can watch the iconathon here: http://youtu.be/sei9SeoObJA
If you would like to participate in the hangout, please email me, Pau Giner (pginer@wikimedia.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'pginer@wikimedia.org');>) or Vibha Bamba (vbamba@wikimedia.org<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'vbamba@wikimedia.org');> ).
Thanks! Munaf _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
I think the point Waldir was making was about a lack of information preceding the event, not so much the follow up.
On 09/04/13 04:19, Steven Walling wrote:
On Monday, April 8, 2013, Waldir Pimenta wrote:
Sorry, but this announcement was frankly too little, too late. I had looked at the Wikimedia blog post, the Noun Project blog post, the eventbrite page, the talk pages of the event pages in mediawiki, meta and wikipedia (btw, why so much duplication? where was the central hub?) and there was nothing even suggesting that remote participation would be possible, or that a hangout could be expected. This is even worse considering that it was asked a while ago (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2013-March/000423.html) but nobody seems to have answered. Apart from that, where were the results posted? All I found were pictures from the event, spread across several categories. I've collected them on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Iconathon_2013 and cleaned up the other categories they were polluting (e.g. Category:I !!). I would expect the results to be uploaded to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:The_Noun_Project but so far I haven't seen any new icons there. Is this coming soon?Waldir, the event just happened two days ago, and yesterday was a Sunday. Please show a little patience.
The main activity during the event was design work and critique that did not yet involve making permanent digital assets. The core part of this was not making simple black and white SVGs of icons, but churning out as many ideas for representing concepts as possible, which we did collaboratively in groups on paper. Then we sorted and assessed these ideas with lots of back and forth between designers, Wikimedians present, etc.
Now that the idea phase is over and it's time to move toward execution, Vibha and others who ran this will be posting more updates this week. All relevant materials will of course be available for use on Commons.
Self-answer, after doing a little research: "Afterwards, The Noun Project will take the pen/paper sketches and have their vector artists render them in SVG. They will be released about a month after the event" — from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2013-March/000421.html. Yet this wasn't mentioned anywhere in any of the page I listed above. A "results" section would be most welcome for those who weren't able to participate. Related, for anyone interested: I recently came across interesting resources for the kinds of icons that the Noun Project seems to focus on, and tried to organize the categories in commons to make them more findable: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Plain_black_icons (and subcategories) and fontello.com <http://fontello.com> (font-based icons, all of them freely licensed). --Wadir ps - I don't understand why this announcement wasn't also posted to the design mailing list. I'm CC'ing it. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Munaf Assaf <massaf@wikimedia.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'massaf@wikimedia.org');>> wrote: Hello all, You can watch the iconathon here: http://youtu.be/sei9SeoObJA If you would like to participate in the hangout, please email me, Pau Giner (pginer@wikimedia.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'pginer@wikimedia.org');>) or Vibha Bamba (vbamba@wikimedia.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'vbamba@wikimedia.org');>). Thanks! Munaf _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l-- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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On 09/04/13 04:19, Steven Walling wrote:
On Monday, April 8, 2013, Waldir Pimenta wrote:
Apart from that, where were the results posted? All I found were pictures from the event, spread across several categories. I've collected them on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Iconathon_2013 and cleaned up the other categories they were polluting (e.g. Category:I !!). I would expect the results to be uploaded to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:The_Noun_Project but so far I haven't seen any new icons there. Is this coming soon?
Waldir, the event just happened two days ago, and yesterday was a Sunday. Please show a little patience.
The main activity during the event was design work and critique that did not yet involve making permanent digital assets. The core part of this was not making simple black and white SVGs of icons, but churning out as many ideas for representing concepts as possible, which we did collaboratively in groups on paper. Then we sorted and assessed these ideas with lots of back and forth between designers, Wikimedians present, etc.
Now that the idea phase is over and it's time to move toward execution, Vibha and others who ran this will be posting more updates this week. All relevant materials will of course be available for use on Commons.
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Isarra Yos zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
I think the point Waldir was making was about a lack of information preceding the event, not so much the follow up.
Thanks, that was indeed my main concern. I was a little frustrated as I would like to have at least watched parts of the event, and even accepted that it wouldn't be possible due to the nature of the event, only to be informed, after the fact (I didn't read wikitech-l in the hours prior to the event) that some sort of remote participation was actually possible. This led me to vent out a little more than I should in my message, and I apologize for that (also, I didn't mean to imply that making black and white icons is a simple matter and should be done quickly; sorry if that was the impression I passed). Nevertheless, my concern still stands: although several event pages were created (more than should have been, imo, but that's another issue), none of them made any reference to either remote participation, or how non-participants could expect to know about the outcomes.