Nick, not sure I follow…
Moving the TOC doesn't affect its structure…
Change the process for getting to a subheading, from 1-move-and-click to 2-moves-and-2-clicks I assume by 1-move you mean, scroll past the lead paragraph, then click on a section of the toc?
in the prototype, you click (or we could make it hover) which would mean no moves, 1 click, so faster than the current state of things, also we get the bonus of it being available anywhere, not just at the top of an article.
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On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:45 PM, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Jared Zimmerman < jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Looking good, some feedback…
- I think we should explore putting Watch and TOC together, or at
least associating them more closely.
- tipsy being to the left of, covers the other icons, I'm not sure if
we even need it, perhaps we could just rely on regular browser tooltips.
- I think that moving the TOC icon over should be animated, currently
the snap makes me look up, and is a bit distracting, the opposite of what we want.
- I think we can kill the in-line TOC
That would be problematic. It would:
- Make it impossible to get a sense of the article structure, at a
glance. (eg. Enwiki's WP:Features article criteria 2bhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FA%3Fand any good FA example.)
- Change the process for getting to a subheading, from
1-move-and-click to 2-moves-and-2-clicks
- You can't currently scroll the TOC flyout
- Idea : highlight the current section in the TOC flyout
- when language list is not collapsable the left sidebar take a long
time to go away
Pau's proposal should solve that. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/New_Features#Better_Interlangua...
- Placeholder text and user input is not aligned with each other in
search box
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:11 PM, May Tee-Galloway < mgalloway@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Added my comments on mediawiki.
@Steven:
No matter how much anyone doesn't like the globe including myself, it's a huge part of Wikipedia's brand like you mentioned and shouldn't be wiped out just for the sake of our personal preference. We should improve and not trash it. Even if we trashed it and replaced with something else, we still need SOMETHING people can relate to in regards to the project. Why do this when people already relate the globe as Wikipedia. Wabi sabi wasabi man.
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Brandon Harris bharris@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hello! I’ve been making a thing. It’s actually got a code-name now!No more saying “Vector static header and navigation modification”.
LOTS of stuff going on with this update. Notably: * Now asks for a username on load, so as to set thingsup * All pages are loaded from the API via JSON. So it’s not just the single static page. * Got rid of pretty much every color. * Article actions now dock in the header as you scroll. * Table of Contents is now in the header from the beginning * The sidebar’s border goes away as you scroll past it * Lots of links/actions do what you think they should. Most do not.
You can play with it here: http://unicorn.wmflabs.org/winter/ And read more about it here:\o/
The search prototype is great, and so are the improvements to the toolbar, particularly the relation between the TOC and the way the page actions slide out on scrolldown. I can't wait to see this as a beta feature.
Some very small things:
- I realize the icons are mostly placeholders, but the user contribs
one is seriously confusing. It looks like there are two edit buttons when you scroll down.
- I think the main edit button at the top should not be the quiet state
from mw-ui. There is very little use of color on the skin now, so it's not like we're overwhelming things. We need to stop being afraid to make a few things LOUDER, particularly since in this prototype we're removing some color (like the Vector borders).
- The line underneath the page title h1 is a different thickness (and
color?) than the other borders. It's mildly annoying.
And one bigger thing... The lack of the puzzle globe when scrolling. I know you hate the puzzle globe and so do many of our designers. But it's a key part of our identity, and it's also a really nice large target for "home" on desktop. Thinking of this as a potential future default look, splitting the logo and wordmark on every page like that is a serious change. We should have a larger conversation about it I think internally. Either we do think the globe is an important part of our brand or we don't. If we think it's so unimportant as to remove it on scroll, then that has pretty wide implications for our branding I think.
Winter is coming, (I couldn't resist the Game of Thrones reference.)
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