The <b> and <i> elements were described only in presentational terms, this is not the case anymore in HTML5 where they now have specific semantic purpose: http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/b.html span of text offset from its surrounding content without conveying any extra emphasis or importance, and for which the conventional typographic presentation is bold text” http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/i.html span of text offset from its surrounding content without conveying any extra emphasis or importance, and for which the conventional typographic presentation is italic text”.
If one wants they don't have to follow the conventional typographic presentation and use <b> for something other that bold text, or <i> for something other than italic text.
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Peter Coombe thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote:
Indeed. See also the bugs where these were set to use <b> and <i> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370
And subsequent bugs asking for a change to <em> and <strong> which were marked as INVALID / WONTFIX. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1038 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7921 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12550
Peter
On 30 November 2013 04:35, Bartosz Dziewoński matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 13:22:20 +0100, max max@koehler-kn.de wrote:
I absolutely agree with your point. I wasn't aware that wiki-syntax inserts in fact <i> tags (and also <b> tags, which bring up the same problems). That needs to be changed. We need clean, semantic markup in order to adjust the styling to any given circumstances, as you perfectly described.
This sucks, but it can't. The italics and bold weren't always used with the semantic meaning of giving emphasis (as I mentioned in my previous e-mail), so blindly replacing them with "semantic" tags and giving them false meanings would be a step back.
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