While looking at my watchlist last night, I was thinking - wow, this page
hasn't changed much since the project began. I spent some hours doodling
trying to see if I could make it much easier to browse through and visually
identify suspicious edits.
I came up with this idea of visually showing representing the edits:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mw-ux-visual_watchlist.png
Its not much, but I think it shows the potential for change that this page
has. Has there been any previous discussions on improving the watchlist?
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>
> FYI. This likely has implications for the work that's being done on
> universal language selection.
>
> Erik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de>
> Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:46 AM
> Subject: [Wikidata-l] mockups for linking Wikipedia articles up for feedback
> To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> Heya folks :)
>
> We've worked on mockups for how we think linking of articles between
> different Wikipedias should work with Wikidata. You can find the
> mock-ups and explanations here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Storyboard_for_linking_Wikip…
> It'd be great if you could have a look and give feedback either here
> or on the discussion page on meta.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
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I'm gonna be, like, 5 minutes late for our cabal meeting. I'll skype in pau when i get there.
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We had a conversation the other day about how the concept of an icon that says "change language" was a . . . formidable . . . design challenge. I mentioned that I'd brought this up to the Design Guild a few months back, and we spent several hours talking about it.
They had some far-out concepts. But the end boiled down to something like this:
Obviously, this is something I threw together in about 20 minutes. I pulled glyphs from the WP logo for it; the proportions are way off, and i don't know that it's going to work below 32 pixels.
Here's the thinking:
Indicating *languages* is next to impossible.
Indicating *scripts* is less so.
People will be more likely to recognize foreign scripts than foreign language names (e.g., if you don't speak a Latin script, "English", "Deutsch", and "Italiano" are going to look the same to you).
Opposition research showed that most of the more intelligent switchers depend on script-recognition than actual word recognition.
Thoughts? I'm eager to think about this because I'm working on the "Wikipedia 2015" designs, and it's important to have a handle on this for them.
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry you missed it! If you want to
>> have a look at the presentation, you can find it at
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Localisation_team_Sprint_14_demo.pdf.
>
>
> Small note on the design prototype of ULS that just struck me.
>
> The personal bar is currently used by communities, to add custom items.
> Moodbar also uses it. Would the ULS be using personal-bar, in which case it
> might be a good idea to check if the screen breaks (not just in English, but
> in languages which have lengthy translations of personal-bar[1]). Also,
> would ULS be preceeding the proposed(?) redesign of personal bar?
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34681
Thanks for the feedback, Srikanth.
The current designs are not final by any means, so on exact position
and other properties I cannot reply with any certainty. Our goal as
Localisation team, is to provide anyone with a user experience that is
equal to that in the English language. This means that language, or
localisation, should not unnecessarily hinder user experience. The
flexibility of the MediaWiki software, with its gadgets, skins, and
other arbitrary visual elements pose a big challenge. I accept that
any and all eventualities cannot be foreseen for each and every
language. Inevitably, some things will pop up that we need to address
once the functionality has been developed.
I've asked the design group to expedite the creation of a design guide
for MediaWiki[1] a while ago in the Product Management team. The
current guide is mostly about shapes and colours of different possible
elements. Having guidelines for adding elements to the standard chrome
in a standard and prescribed way, may help reduce future issues. Until
then, we have to unfortunately mostly guess and hope that when and
where we add elements, they will not interfere (too much) with already
existing unknown elements.
I'm not sure if this fully satisfies as an answer to your question,
but at the moment it's the best I can provide. Maybe someone from the
design list[2] is able to provide additional input.
Cheers!
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Style_guide
[2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
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I'm moving this to the design list, as it were, and I'm re-including the icon sheet at the bottom.
Comments inline for the thread; my comments on Lindsay's icons themselves at the end.
On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Heather Walls wrote:
> Forgot to mention the part about how they look great and go together well :)
>
> (The two open arrows and the x are slightly rounded while the rest are sharp, if we want to hold to one or the other.)
>
I don't think that we need to cleave to one or the other as a religion. I kind of like rounding things off when it makes aesthetic sense, but not otherwise. For example, a pencil tip should be sharp, but the point on the "location marker" doesn't need to be exactly sharp, or the edges on the dies.
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Heather Walls <hwalls(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> I might be insane but here goes.
> So what I mean by “future” is less the look than the concept, although the concept is usually tied to the look. What I am saying is, in 2050 are we going to use a piece of paper to express something that is possibly no longer related to paper in any way. Like, why will there even still be paper? Why is there paper now?
> Is it silly and too early to talk about this? Maybe. Probably. I decided to write about this on a Friday night after dinner and drinks so... I digress.
> At the same time, we do currently create and read things that are basically flat and square anyway, and it is also possible that humans will retain the same symbols until their original meaning is forgotten because after all, we do that all the time.
> </rant>
I agree. There's a conversation to be had about this, about the expiration of iconography. Consider that the symbol for "save" is a floppy disk. That made sense. . . in 1995.
I always see the "paper" thing as a "file" but it could be that I've been conditioned into that.
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Lindsey Smith <lsmith(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Started throwing together a more "modern" set of icons after our Tuesday discussion and included a couple of Brandon's that I think fit in well. Any thoughts so far on the direction of the style? I think if we can get that nailed down then we can get into more specifics of which icons should represent which actions/sections and work more on a complete set.
>
Comments on Lindsay's icons:
I absolutely love the direction for "random" that we have here. It's a much better attempt than my fumblings by a strong measure.
I'd like to see a version where both dice are "solid" (so that we can use it in invert), and maybe some slightly rounded edges.
I like the ideas with the globe icon, where the actual continents are abstracted out. That actually helps solve for a lot of problems with this type of icon (mostly having to do with euro- or america-centrism).
I like the trashcan icon's top, and I'm going to steal it for the stuff I'm doing on page triage.
Actually, I really like all of these. They're clean and simple. My one issue, if anything, is that I'd like to see stronger line-weights on the forward/back and X icons in row 2.
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I managed to finally get the admin password for the list, and then fixed the file size limit so we won't get crap held for moderation or bounced when it's too large.
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Hey all,
I'd like to have a discussion about what makes the most sense for the icon for the menu that has actions for the article. Would any of the attached make sense?
If we should move this discussion to a wiki page or something else, let me know. I'm not exactly sure how that works.
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