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Winter: not right rail
by Amir E. Aharoni 16 Aug '14

16 Aug '14

Hi, This is a follow-up to Brandon's Wikimania talk about Winter. Winter has an important concept of "the right rail". I like the "rail" part of the name, because it's a nice departure from "bar", but the "right" part is wrong for several reasons: 1. It's "left" in Arabic. 2. It can be misunderstood as "correct". 3. Most importantly, it doesn't say what is the rail for. What is it for, really? Data, tools, info, navigation, aids, knowledge, gallery? I don't have a strongly preferred name myself. "Tools" is pretty close, but an infobox is not exactly a tool. Other suggestion are welcome. I should also mention that we have a pretty similar bar (rail? column?) in the ContentTranslation extension. It shows information about words, translations, and tools to control the machine translation. In the Language team we usually call it the "tools column". -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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thought: remove infobox invocations entirely
by Amir E. Aharoni 13 Aug '14

13 Aug '14

Just an idea inspired by Brandon's Wikimania talk and some discussions at Wikidata-L: We can completely remove infobox templates. More precisely, the templates may stay, but the code that places them in the article can be removed. Let me explain: Wikidata makes it possible to write an infobox without any parameters - just {{Infobox settlement}} without any |, = and all that. Wikidata even has a property called "infobox's main topic", a kind of "meta-property" that can automatically identify which infobox does the article need, so that you can simply say something like {{Infobox}}. This is implemented in the Russian Wikipedia using https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Universal_infocard , which is used on hundreds of articles there. So it hasn't replaced the usual templates yet, but the theoretical possibility is there. Thus, the only thing left to the editor's discretion is where to place the infobox. This, however, can be handled by Winter. Winter puts infobox-like information on the info rail*, and if we plan to be bold enough to take it completely out of the article's prose flow, why not just remove it from the article completely? If an article has an appropriate infobox template, it is shown on the info rail, and that is it. (The Community will then ask for the __NOINFOBOX__ magic word, but that's a minor thing.) Thoughts? * That's how I call the "right rail" until there is consensus on a better name. See http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2014-August/001897.html -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Testing Devices with Current Store Versions for WIkimania
by Vibha Bamba 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

Hi Abbey! The following 2 devices are on your table with current store versions Design Team - IPOD 1 Design Team - LG Android 1 There may be an IOS update next week, Moiz can keep you posted on that. Thanks Vibha ---- Vibha Bamba Senior Designer | WMF Design

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Official colors for the Wikimedia world
by David Abián 31 Jul '14

31 Jul '14

Hi, designers. Are the official colors for the Wikimedia world described somewhere? I guess that they are, for the WMF logo and others, #900, #069 and #396, but I can also find some of them that show #AC2D1F, #005C93 and #007B4F (the old ones?), like the horizontal version for the WMF logo.[1] Should I update this logo? Official colors are #900, #069 and #396? Thanks in advance. [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wmf_logo_horiz_pms.svg -- David Abián @d_abian - [[es:User:Abián]] http://davidabian.com/ Wikimedia España http://www.wikimedia.es/

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Fwd: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Thumbnail style update
by Steven Walling 26 Jul '14

26 Jul '14

Sorry for cross-posting, but wanted to make sure folks knew that we were releasing this. This was tested as part of the typography refresh, but we didn't want to put it out with the initial release because it needed more testing. Like typography refresh, the design goals here are consistency across devices and simplifying the reading interface to increase emphasis on the content. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <nwilson(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:45 PM Subject: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Thumbnail style update To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects < wikitech-ambassadors(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Greetings all, There's an upcoming change to the thumbnail styling in Vector that we'd appreciate your assistance translating and announcing. The primary change is to remove the "box" border, which will bring the clean style that was recently added to <gallery> to all our thumbnails, plus consistency with our mobile view and the images on most Main Pages. It will be arriving on non-Wikipedias on August 12, and on Wikipedias on August 14, so there's additional time to acclimate. The design team will be available to discuss this, and other updates and ideas, with anyone interested at Wikimania in 2 weeks. Please see documentation and details, at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thumbnail_style_update Much thanks, Quiddity -- Nick Wilson (Quiddity) Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/

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Re: [Design] [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere
by Jon Robson 21 Jul '14

21 Jul '14

Sounds good. Adding design mailing list. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Steven Walling <steven.walling(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogout might be an obvious >> place (closest to the action)... although not sure how discoverable. >> >> Do you want to logout everywhere <YES> <NO> >> [] Remember this decision >> >> It seems like we could split this into 2 features though in the >> interest of getting things done. Right now I'm interested in just >> fixing the logout behaviour - in this day and age to many people are >> using too many different devices and this experience seems very >> broken. > > > This seems potentially overcomplicated. Other sites doing this (Facebook, > Google, others) don't put this kind of "close all sessions" option directly > on logout. Let's get some input here from the UX team. > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson * @rakugojon

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Some more unsoliciteds
by Brandon Harris 02 Jul '14

02 Jul '14

Here's this, which appears to be a reskin, with a browser plug-in. Languages are front-and-center, which is nice. many texture. so color. http://en.wikipedia.org.advanc.io/ And then there is this: http://www.wikiwand.com/ which will "upgrade" Wikipedia for you if you want (I'm too scared to click that button, so let me know what happens). They have a nice ToC interaction - just scroll around in here and you'll see it: http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ferrari_599_GTB_Fiorano --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

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Tweaks and additions to mediawiki.ui
by Steven Walling 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

Hi all, This is a heads up about some of the things the Growth team is thinking about and working on with mediawiki.ui. 1. We're in the process of adding optional icon support for mediawiki.ui buttons, with browser support down to IE8.[A] 2. We're going to get rid of the text shadow on the default mediawiki.ui buttons.[B] It's distracting and doesn't increase readability. We don't use gradients in the colored buttons for similar reasons. 3. We need to do some tweaking of the design of the default mediawiki.ui button.[D] We're designing the second iteration of the anonymous editor signup invitation UI to A/B test.[E] When looking at these, you can see that the default mediawiki.ui button ("continue editing") almost seems disabled. We should talk about ways to improve on this design, such as darkening the text color or giving the default button a background color. This may come up in the WMF UX team's weekly design review as well, but I wanted to give a heads up about these issues since the library is in MediaWiki core. A. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55535 B. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61940 C. These are viewable at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodilia?gettingStartedReturn=true if you're logged in D. See style guide: http://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/section-2.html E. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anonymous_editor_acquisition/Signup_invites_… -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/

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"Das Referenz: Wikipedia Redesigned for iPad"
by Steven Walling 09 Jun '14

09 Jun '14

Must read: https://medium.com/@raureif/das-referenz-wikipedia-redesigned-for-ipad-65af… -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/

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designing the edit summary message
by Amir E. Aharoni 05 Jun '14

05 Jun '14

Hi, I wondered where to raise this and decided to do it here. The message that asks for to write the edit summary in VisualEditor is "Describe what you changed". In the source editor it's just "Summary" in the core. In the English Wikipedia, however, it's modified to "[[Help:Edit summary|Edit summary]] (Briefly describe the changes you have made)". The VisualEditor is used a lot by new editors (it's an impression, but I'm pretty sure that the data will say the same). The idea of the edit summary is to help the people who patrol recent changes or read the article history. When new editors, who aren't so familiar with Wikipedia's edit summary culture, are asked to "Describe what you changed", they may answer: "the year when he was born". This is a correct answer as far as the editor is concerned, but it's not so helpful in the context of recent changes. I don't know about other languages, but this actually happens quite a lot in the Hebrew Wikipedia, and some patrollers are complaining about it. (In grammatical terms, the summary is written as a direct object: "Describe what you changed" -> (I changed) "the year".) Now I could change this to something clearer in the translation to this particular language, but I like to be thorough when it comes to UI messages, so I'd like to ask the pros here: How would you design the edit summary box? The requirements I can think of are: 1. Encourage the user to actually write the edit summary. People not writing summaries at all is a bigger problem than writing them not clearly as I wrote above. 2. Encourage to write it in a way that would be useful to the people who will read them in Recent Changes and in reviewing previous article versions. 3. Possibly give the users tips about how to write them well, but without too much additional text. Thanks! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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