From time to time I was asking people to fill the page [1], so we may
be able to make a bot for community news. I think now that better idea is to make something like "Project:Community news" page (with translation in all languages) at every project. However, this needs asking every particular community. And I suppose that this is the part of ComProj's job :)
I could make a bot which would be used by writing new section at the Meta page by specific group of people (I suppose, again, by some ComProj's members). The bot will check every hour is there any news and is it written by particular user. If so, bot would resend that message to all (specified) projects.
[1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikimedian_pubs
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com Date: Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [ComProj] New project, the Wikipedia Globe To: Discussion list for the Communication Projects Group comproj@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: misza1313@gmail.com, millosh@gmail.com
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Cary Bass cary@wikimedia.org wrote:
I've created a new page, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/logo, and would like to draw attention to it from people who have been active in the discussions as well as including anyone who may be interested via the local projects' village pumps.
So, this is where Comproj comes in... getting the message out that we're looking for interest in this project. Thanks!
We might want to get some nice bot owner to spam a message to all the village pumps[1] (but send it to only the Wikipedias), something along the lines of [2] maybe?
CC'ing to two possible bot owners that could help, Misza13 because of his MiszaBot and Millosh (this is similar to his "Hello world!" project).
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com wrote:
By the way, I'm interested in doing a roundtable interview episode for the podcast with several people elected to the committees of various of our different chapters - to discuss what issues every chapter is facing, and what is unique about each one.
Might want to ask someone to forward this message to internal-l (chapters people are on there)[3].
[1]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications_subcommittees/Internal/Distrib... [2]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/Logo/Notification [3]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l
-- Casey Brown Cbrown1023
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Yes, it would be good if there were a centralised way of speaking to all communities rather than an ad-hoc distribution of village pump notices, the heavy handed option of a site notice or through the Foundation's blog (which is largely aimed at an audience outside the community anyway). Presumably this bot could also be asked to deliver notices to people's userpage much like the en:wp:signpost subscription.
-Liam
wikipediaweekly.org Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]]
On 09/10/2008, at 5:36 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
From time to time I was asking people to fill the page [1], so we may be able to make a bot for community news. I think now that better idea is to make something like "Project:Community news" page (with translation in all languages) at every project. However, this needs asking every particular community. And I suppose that this is the part of ComProj's job :)
I could make a bot which would be used by writing new section at the Meta page by specific group of people (I suppose, again, by some ComProj's members). The bot will check every hour is there any news and is it written by particular user. If so, bot would resend that message to all (specified) projects.
[1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikimedian_pubs
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com Date: Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [ComProj] New project, the Wikipedia Globe To: Discussion list for the Communication Projects Group comproj@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: misza1313@gmail.com, millosh@gmail.com
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Cary Bass cary@wikimedia.org wrote:
I've created a new page, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/logo, and would like to draw attention to it from people who have been active in the discussions as well as including anyone who may be interested via the local projects' village pumps.
So, this is where Comproj comes in... getting the message out that we're looking for interest in this project. Thanks!
We might want to get some nice bot owner to spam a message to all the village pumps[1] (but send it to only the Wikipedias), something along the lines of [2] maybe?
CC'ing to two possible bot owners that could help, Misza13 because of his MiszaBot and Millosh (this is similar to his "Hello world!" project).
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com wrote:
By the way, I'm interested in doing a roundtable interview episode for the podcast with several people elected to the committees of various of our different chapters - to discuss what issues every chapter is facing, and what is unique about each one.
Might want to ask someone to forward this message to internal-l (chapters people are on there)[3].
[1]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications_subcommittees/ Internal/Distribution_list [2]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/Logo/Notification [3]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l
-- Casey Brown Cbrown1023
--- Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails sent to this address will probably get lost.
_______________________________________________ ComProj mailing list ComProj@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
From time to time I was asking people to fill the page [1], so we may be able to make a bot for community news. I think now that better idea is to make something like "Project:Community news" page (with translation in all languages) at every project. However, this needs asking every particular community. And I suppose that this is the part of ComProj's job :)
I could make a bot which would be used by writing new section at the Meta page by specific group of people (I suppose, again, by some ComProj's members). The bot will check every hour is there any news and is it written by particular user. If so, bot would resend that message to all (specified) projects.
[1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikimedian_pubs
There's already a list here: < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications_subcommittees/Internal/Distrib..., it would be a good idea to merge the two.
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Milos Rancic wrote:
From time to time I was asking people to fill the page [1], so we may be able to make a bot for community news. I think now that better idea is to make something like "Project:Community news" page (with translation in all languages) at every project. However, this needs asking every particular community. And I suppose that this is the part of ComProj's job :)
I could make a bot which would be used by writing new section at the Meta page by specific group of people (I suppose, again, by some ComProj's members). The bot will check every hour is there any news and is it written by particular user. If so, bot would resend that message to all (specified) projects.
[1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikimedian_pubs
Does this mean that you'll have your bot spam the notice [2] on all Wikipedias (only, no Wikibooks, Wiktionaries, etc.) listed here[3] ?
[2]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/Logo/Notification [3]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications_subcommittees/Internal/Distrib...
Thanks :)
- -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator
Your continued donations keep Wikipedia running! Support the Wikimedia Foundation today: http://donate.wikimedia.org Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. Phone: 415.839.6885 x 601 Fax: 415.882.0495
E-Mail: cary@wikimedia.org
Cary Bass wrote:
Does this mean that you'll have your bot spam the notice [2] on all Wikipedias (only, no Wikibooks, Wiktionaries, etc.) listed here[3] ?
[2]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/Logo/Notification [3]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications_subcommittees/Internal/Distrib...
Thanks :)
The text must be translated prior to the spam. The translation will be done by people knowing each language. Thus, I'd favour each translator posting the notice at the local VP after translating instead of a bot. The translators will likely be on those communities and, anyway, people is always preferred to bots. (Note that 1 wikipedia = 1 tranlation ~ 1 translator). For languages not translated after X days (a week?), then a bot can be run with a default language.
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Platonides platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Cary Bass wrote:
Does this mean that you'll have your bot spam the notice [2] on all Wikipedias (only, no Wikibooks, Wiktionaries, etc.) listed here[3] ?
[2]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/Logo/Notification [3]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications_subcommittees/Internal/Distrib...
Thanks :)
The text must be translated prior to the spam. The translation will be done by people knowing each language. Thus, I'd favour each translator posting the notice at the local VP after translating instead of a bot. The translators will likely be on those communities and, anyway, people is always preferred to bots. (Note that 1 wikipedia = 1 tranlation ~ 1 translator). For languages not translated after X days (a week?), then a bot can be run with a default language.
Did you look at the notification I posted? There's a spot there for the translation. In my opinion, I think it's better to just get it out there and *then* have it translated by a local community member. That way we still have the original in English as well.
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Casey Brown wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Platonides <platonides@gmail.com mailto:platonides@gmail.com> wrote:
Cary Bass wrote: > Does this mean that you'll have your bot spam the notice [2] on all > Wikipedias (only, no Wikibooks, Wiktionaries, etc.) listed here[3] ? > > [2]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/Logo/Notification > [3]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications_subcommittees/Internal/Distribution_list > > Thanks :) The text must be translated prior to the spam. The translation will be done by people knowing each language. Thus, I'd favour each translator posting the notice at the local VP after translating instead of a bot. The translators will likely be on those communities and, anyway, people is always preferred to bots. (Note that 1 wikipedia = 1 tranlation ~ 1 translator). For languages not translated after X days (a week?), then a bot can be run with a default language.Did you look at the notification I posted? There's a spot there for the translation. In my opinion, I think it's better to just get it out there and *then* have it translated by a local community member. That way we still have the original in English as well.
-- Casey Brown Cbrown1023
To run with what Casey is saying, the project is fairly useless if the respondents do not know English to begin with. So it should be up to the local projects if they'd like to translate.
Casey, should there not be a link to the project on Meta?
- -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator
Your continued donations keep Wikipedia running! Support the Wikimedia Foundation today: http://donate.wikimedia.org Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. Phone: 415.839.6885 x 601 Fax: 415.882.0495
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Cary Bass cary@wikimedia.org wrote:
Casey, should there not be a link to the project on Meta?
You mean, in the notification itself? If so, yeah -- there's two: "Feel to visit the page on Meta-Wiki http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/Logoand discuss it on the talk page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedia/Logo." :-)
If you mean a link *on Meta* itself, we could spam it in the sitenotice next to "Tell us about your Wikipedia".