Hello,

ComProj has long been a redirect to Communication Projects Group, so that hasn't changed. The projects page is what I changed the most; go take a look.

As for forums etc., I understand where you are coming from, but I also don't see what is wrong with e-mail - surely pretty much everyone on the web knows how to use e-mail, and it allows really clear communication?

Thank you for your contribution,

Sean

On 11/16/07, simonpedia simon@cols.com.au wrote:

Previous message: [ComProj] A new system for ComProj? (please read and comment) Next message: [ComProj] Meeting in an hour and a half Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ________________________________ Hello all,

Following the decisions on Wednesday I have changed the ComProj pages around to meet our new, deformalised structure. I am tired and thus probably haven't made things as clear as they should be so if someone could take a look and neaten things up that would be great.

Let's see if this works :)

Sean

Hey Sean,

Just had a look. I'm totally exhausted too. Talk about mixing directories. But I can see where you're going. Goodoh.

Reading between the lines, we have been here. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComProj

And now we're here. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group

So I guess this is what yuall discussed at the last IRC meeting although there is no record yet.

Look I can only suggest to you that we've got to start thinking outside the square(s). There comes a time where a wiki can't be all things to all people, and the comms tools wikipedians are offered (IRC, elists) are just past their use bys.. It comes down to this. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group/Projects/Discuss... I'm asking you to think from the "discussion inlets" perspective, where every inlet will be based around some group or committee.

Ultimately, just like a wiki, if you give people the right tools, and make their use simple enough, and show them through using it, they'll find their own level. Where a wiki has proved just so incredibly successful for producing a library, we need something just as simple to use which supports their communication, and by this I mean both the asynchronous stuff – where I've pointed to sitepoint.com's forums and blogs as an example – but also their real time comms, which range from an msg type tool all the way through to accessgrid-type rooms.or meeting space a la http://labspace.open.ac.uk/ If it needs a manual, forget it.

So as a starting point can I again suggest that we consider designing a forum. The integration with instant messaging tools can be something which is considered while it grows legs. And could we (me) see about getting a sponsor (and development partner) for "it", because the higher bandwidth stuff will blow any budget even if it's halfway as successful as Wikipedia.

All the best,

simonfj

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