Sorry Cormac - I don't know if I've responded yet.
I think inter-community communication is also a fine amendment/addition to the goals.
I agree that real communication is needed, but I'd also say that it's going to be a multi-step process. I think a Foundation Blog is step one, because at least it gives us one place on a more commonly held level to inform what's going on.
The notion of improving the way our lists work, or changing them altogether is on the table (a big table) and to whatever extent we can help address those challenges here, I'm interested.
That being said though, I think promotion is an easy first step towards the idea of communication. It's a bit more specific, attainable, and easy to measure some success.
Jay Walsh Head of Communications WikimediaFoundation.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 609
Cormac Lawler wrote:
Hi all, sorry I couldn't make it to the meeting. One brief comment on Jay's mail..
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Jay Walsh <jwalsh@wikimedia.org mailto:jwalsh@wikimedia.org> wrote
The first (and actually quite broad) goal I propose is 'promotion' By promotion, that means I'd like work I float, or that we discuss, on this list to specifically be aimed towards promoting WMF's projects: * Spreading the word on our internal communications tools (pumps, signpost, project info pages etc) * bringing news and information to the wider public community by discussing our projects in other non-WMF related sites/media.I'd like to augment the first goal to involve communication between projects, and not simply promotion of projects. Promotion is a part of the picture, but communication involves more - including sharing experiences (successes, problems), discussing common issues, learning from and with each other. This is my own personal larger aim for Wikimedia - for it to become a true learning community, as a meta form of disseminating knowledge. It's something that we're really crying out for - to bring developers, community builders, editors, and users from across projects into closer and more productive contact - so that we can see what issues exist and how they can be addressed. If this fitted into a clearly visible Foundation initiative (which it obviously does as an agenda) it would also address issues of trust, which are clearly being eroded in some parts of the meta-community.
Cheers, Cormac