(Sorry, new comer to this ML, I didn't found the way to reply directly to Rama's e-mail)
I was also contact by the same person (I suppose, according to Rama's description) for the use of 12 of my pictures! My work is done to be reused, but 12 pictures (+ those from Rama, /Magnus, etc./) is a much, isn't it? Can't we ask this publisher for a small insert to promote Commons as an exchange!? With all the money they will save using our pictures, I think it's a good deal for them. What do you think about that?
Aoineko
----------------------------- *Rama Rama wrote:
*An author has contacted me to use some of my photographs in a book (a big, serious, scholarly, several-volume thing). He contacted me, and several other users, after seeing images on Commons. Consequences:
1) Commons does get some visibility, and provides images to serious work. Cheer up, people !
2) The author is enquiring how I wish to be credited. What do you people think would be a concise yet effective way to mention Wikimedia Commons in such cases ?
Cheers ! -- Rama
Aoineko wrote:
(Sorry, new comer to this ML, I didn't found the way to reply directly to Rama's e-mail)
I was also contact by the same person (I suppose, according to Rama's description) for the use of 12 of my pictures! My work is done to be reused, but 12 pictures (+ those from Rama, /Magnus, etc./) is a much, isn't it? Can't we ask this publisher for a small insert to promote Commons as an exchange!? With all the money they will save using our pictures, I think it's a good deal for them. What do you think about that?
Aoineko
Rama wrote:
"(c) Foobar, Cc-by-sa, Wikimedia Commons" "Photograph Foobar (Wikimedia Commons), Cc-by-sa" "Photo Foobar, pub. Wikimedia Commons, Cc-by-sa"
Maybe they could add an Appendix telling that images mentioning Wikimedia Commons are free and can be found at http://commons.wikimedia.org/ With a summarty of principes more or less extens depending of the space available?
Can't we ask this publisher for a small insert to promote Commons as an exchange!? With all the money they will save using our pictures, I think it's a good deal for them.
Maybe they could add an Appendix telling that images mentioning Wikimedia Commons are free and can be found at http://commons.wikimedia.org/ With a summarty of principes more or less extens depending of the space available?
Hmm, if they use really that many commons pics and every author requested "Wikimedia Commons" to appear in the credits, then this seems to be enough promotion. This will surely attract attention of the interested reader. An extra appendix would be an overstatement of the importance IMO. Do you see what I'm saying? If the mention of "Wikimedia Commons" among all image credits doesn't stand out by number then Commons apparently was not an important source of images. On the other hand if it does appear that often then the appendix seems unnecessary (maybe an URL would be nice though).
Given the identity of the requester and the size of the work, it is possible that these images be used in a reasonably important book. I think that we should not hesitate to go extra lengths to accommodate such customers, because 1) they provide us a de facto advertisement 1a) the advertisement is backed by scholarly authority 1b) the advertisement goes primarily to their fellow scholars 2) the requirements of scholars are in themselves valuable to us.
To illustrate 2) : the requests for extra images to be made at the Louvre provided me with a list of valuable items to photograph. This allowed me - to attempt to take good photographs rather than snapshots. - to concentrate on significant items rather than remnants of garage sales of the part centuries.
On 10/25/07, Daniel Schwen lists@schwen.de wrote:
Can't we ask this publisher for a small insert to promote Commons as an exchange!? With all the money they will save using our pictures, I think it's a good deal for them.
Maybe they could add an Appendix telling that images mentioning Wikimedia Commons are free and can be found at http://commons.wikimedia.org/ With a summarty of principes more or less extens depending of the space available?
Hmm, if they use really that many commons pics and every author requested "Wikimedia Commons" to appear in the credits, then this seems to be enough promotion. This will surely attract attention of the interested reader. An extra appendix would be an overstatement of the importance IMO. Do you see what I'm saying? If the mention of "Wikimedia Commons" among all image credits doesn't stand out by number then Commons apparently was not an important source of images. On the other hand if it does appear that often then the appendix seems unnecessary (maybe an URL would be nice though).
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