While we are on the topic of too much work and not enough people to do it: Tonight I felt particularly motivated and decided to make myself useful deleting superseded images. Trusting the people who had posted those images there I made my way through the first dozen or so of the list, when I suddenly decided it might be a good idea, just to be on the safe side, to perform a check-usage on those images. Turns out some of those images weren't only used on one or two Wikipedias, but more than a dozen. So I ended up undeleting most of the images, because I really got better things to do than first check all those images if they're still in use somewhere, and then making I don't know how many edits in as many Wikipedias changing the links. So I think if we ever won't to work off the backlog we have accumulated we either "train" the normal users to fix the links when they add the images there or we find some possibility to do it automatically using bots running parallely on all WPs or something. I don't know if that's possible to implement, but I for myself have better things to do than do all of this by hand.
Lennert B
On 11/12/06, Lennert Böhm lennert.boehm@gmx.de wrote:
While we are on the topic of too much work and not enough people to do it: Tonight I felt particularly motivated and decided to make myself useful deleting superseded images. Trusting the people who had posted those images there I made my way through the first dozen or so of the list, when I suddenly decided it might be a good idea, just to be on the safe side, to perform a check-usage on those images. Turns out some of those images weren't only used on one or two Wikipedias, but more than a dozen. So I ended up undeleting most of the images, because I really got better things to do than first check all those images if they're still in use somewhere, and then making I don't know how many edits in as many Wikipedias changing the links. So I think if we ever won't to work off the backlog we have accumulated we either "train" the normal users to fix the links when they add the images there or we find some possibility to do it automatically using bots running parallely on all WPs or something. I don't know if that's possible to implement, but I for myself have better things to do than do all of this by hand.
Lennert B
You need orphanbot or a version of it.
Lennart, geni,
This bot is already there and also appears to have full community support, at least as long as removing images is the topic (mainly copyvio deletions). AFAIK there is no full time bot process for image replacement (superseded, duplicate, e.a.), although that sounds trivial.
Links: - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CommonsDelinker (bot page) - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_permissions/CommonsDelinker (request for permission) - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Orgullomoore (bot operator)
Sadly, though, the bot operator got overtaken by real life and has been idle for over a month. I guess any experienced bot operator willing to take a sh*tload of crap whenever the bot does not do a good job can contact Orgullomoore and see if he can maybe take over the project.
Cheers!
Siebrand
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org [mailto:commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org] Namens geni Verzonden: zondag 12 november 2006 23:01 Aan: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List Onderwerp: Re: [Commons-l] Deleting images
On 11/12/06, Lennert Böhm lennert.boehm@gmx.de wrote:
While we are on the topic of too much work and not enough people to do it: Tonight I felt particularly motivated and decided to make myself useful deleting superseded images. Trusting the people who had posted those images there I made my way through the first dozen or so of the list, when I suddenly decided it might be a good idea, just to be on the safe side, to perform a check-usage on those images. Turns out some of those images weren't only used on one or two Wikipedias, but more than a dozen. So I ended up undeleting most of the images, because I really got better things to do than first check all those images if they're still in use somewhere, and then making I don't know how many edits in as many Wikipedias changing the links. So I think if we ever won't to work off the backlog we have accumulated we either "train" the normal users to fix the links when they add the images there or we find some possibility to do it automatically using bots running parallely on all WPs or something. I don't know if that's possible to implement, but I for myself have better things to do than do all of this by hand.
Lennert B
You need orphanbot or a version of it.
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On 13/11/06, Lennert Böhm lennert.boehm@gmx.de wrote:
While we are on the topic of too much work and not enough people to do it: Tonight I felt particularly motivated and decided to make myself useful deleting superseded images. Trusting the people who had posted those images there I made my way through the first dozen or so of the list, when I suddenly decided it might be a good idea, just to be on the safe side, to perform a check-usage on those images. Turns out some of those images weren't only used on one or two Wikipedias, but more than a dozen. So I ended up undeleting most of the images, because I really got better things to do than first check all those images if they're still in use somewhere, and then making I don't know how many edits in as many Wikipedias changing the links. So I think if we ever won't to work off the backlog we have accumulated we either "train" the normal users to fix the links when they add the images there or we find some possibility to do it automatically using bots running parallely on all WPs or something. I don't know if that's possible to implement, but I for myself have better things to do than do all of this by hand.
Yes, indeed. Please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_permissions/CommonsDelinker which is a proposal for a Wikimedia-wide bot to delink for us.
Brianna
Also, if you want to look for "easy" images to delete (ie images that aren't being used elsewhere), use this "Bad Old Ones" script written by Magnus Manske:
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/bad_old_ones.php?category=Unknown_-_August...
(you can change the category in the URL)
ok it is slow to load at first... but then it will tell you in one glance whether an image is being used or not. so you can skip the ones that ARE being used and do the easy ones first. :)
cheers, Brianna
On 13/11/06, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/11/06, Lennert Böhm lennert.boehm@gmx.de wrote:
While we are on the topic of too much work and not enough people to do it: Tonight I felt particularly motivated and decided to make myself useful deleting superseded images. Trusting the people who had posted those images there I made my way through the first dozen or so of the list, when I suddenly decided it might be a good idea, just to be on the safe side, to perform a check-usage on those images. Turns out some of those images weren't only used on one or two Wikipedias, but more than a dozen. So I ended up undeleting most of the images, because I really got better things to do than first check all those images if they're still in use somewhere, and then making I don't know how many edits in as many Wikipedias changing the links. So I think if we ever won't to work off the backlog we have accumulated we either "train" the normal users to fix the links when they add the images there or we find some possibility to do it automatically using bots running parallely on all WPs or something. I don't know if that's possible to implement, but I for myself have better things to do than do all of this by hand.
Yes, indeed. Please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_permissions/CommonsDelinker which is a proposal for a Wikimedia-wide bot to delink for us.
Brianna
Brianna Laugher wrote:
Also, if you want to look for "easy" images to delete (ie images that aren't being used elsewhere), use this "Bad Old Ones" script written by Magnus Manske:
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/bad_old_ones.php?category=Unknown_-_August...
(you can change the category in the URL)
ok it is slow to load at first... but then it will tell you in one glance whether an image is being used or not. so you can skip the ones that ARE being used and do the easy ones first. :)
Unfortunately the toolserver appears to be up the creek again...
On 13/11/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
Brianna Laugher wrote:
Also, if you want to look for "easy" images to delete (ie images that aren't being used elsewhere), use this "Bad Old Ones" script written by Magnus Manske:
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/bad_old_ones.php?category=Unknown_-_August...
(you can change the category in the URL)
ok it is slow to load at first... but then it will tell you in one glance whether an image is being used or not. so you can skip the ones that ARE being used and do the easy ones first. :)
Unfortunately the toolserver appears to be up the creek again...
Yeah the Commons DB is mega-corrupt :( Missing all but the last couple of weeks' entries that correspond to category membership. So all the toolserver tools will give faulty results until this is fixed.
It's not like categories are the backbone of Commons, or anything... :o here's hoping it gets fixed soon.
Brianna
Brianna Laugher wrote:
On 13/11/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
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Unfortunately the toolserver appears to be up the creek again...
Yeah the Commons DB is mega-corrupt :( Missing all but the last couple of weeks' entries that correspond to category membership. So all the toolserver tools will give faulty results until this is fixed.
It's not like categories are the backbone of Commons, or anything... :o here's hoping it gets fixed soon.
Given the recent flamewars around the place re: categories vs. galleries, things might get interesting :)
Oh, and where has Magnus's imagereview thing gone?