Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
If anybody's got any particularly interesting issues, examples, problems, or idea prototypes relating to usage of SVG on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites, I'd love to see how much I can pack in. :)
I don't know if this is possible, but one feature I'd particularly like to see in Wikipedia is parametrized SVG rendering. For example, when illustrating location of each one of the 210 Slovenian municipalities, it would be cool if (a) you could only have one file with map template, and (b) then specify "[[Image:Obcine_Slovenija_2006.svg|mark_tag="Trbovlje"|color=red]]" or something like that to get this result: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Obcine_Slovenija_2006_Trbovlje.svg
In a present situation, I have to slightly modify the master SVG file and upload 210 two-megabyte files, which is not amusing. Every few years municipality borders get changed, so we have to upload 210+ two-megabyte files yet again.
Is this possible at all?
Hi!
I'm not shure if SVG allow this but may be solved as visibility of one of map's layer. However parameter passing to will be required
Eugene.
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Roman Maurer roman.maurer@amis.net wrote:
Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
If anybody's got any particularly interesting issues, examples, problems, or idea prototypes relating to usage of SVG on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites, I'd love to see how much I can pack in. :)
I don't know if this is possible, but one feature I'd particularly like to see in Wikipedia is parametrized SVG rendering. For example, when illustrating location of each one of the 210 Slovenian municipalities, it would be cool if (a) you could only have one file with map template, and (b) then specify "[[Image:Obcine_Slovenija_2006.svg|mark_tag="Trbovlje"|color=red]]" or something like that to get this result: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Obcine_Slovenija_2006_Trbovlje.svg
In a present situation, I have to slightly modify the master SVG file and upload 210 two-megabyte files, which is not amusing. Every few years municipality borders get changed, so we have to upload 210+ two-megabyte files yet again.
Is this possible at all?
Pozdrav, Roman
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El 5/14/09 2:43 PM, Roman Maurer escribió:
Brion Vibberbrion@wikimedia.org wrote:
If anybody's got any particularly interesting issues, examples, problems, or idea prototypes relating to usage of SVG on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites, I'd love to see how much I can pack in. :)
I don't know if this is possible, but one feature I'd particularly like to see in Wikipedia is parametrized SVG rendering. For example, when illustrating location of each one of the 210 Slovenian municipalities, it would be cool if (a) you could only have one file with map template, and (b) then specify "[[Image:Obcine_Slovenija_2006.svg|mark_tag="Trbovlje"|color=red]]" or something like that to get this result: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Obcine_Slovenija_2006_Trbovlje.svg
In a present situation, I have to slightly modify the master SVG file and upload 210 two-megabyte files, which is not amusing. Every few years municipality borders get changed, so we have to upload 210+ two-megabyte files yet again.
Is this possible at all?
In theory. :) There's a few feature requests sitting around in various variants:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4688 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4689 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5899
and in particular: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14320 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16052
as well as the localization model presented in Nikola's talk.
-- brion
Brion Vibber escribió:
El 5/14/09 2:43 PM, Roman Maurer wrote:
Is this possible at all?
In theory. :) There's a few feature requests sitting around in various variants:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4688 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4689 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5899
and in particular: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14320 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16052
as well as the localization model presented in Nikola's talk.
-- brion
It's also an old idea I had :)
Roman Maurer schrieb:
Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
If anybody's got any particularly interesting issues, examples, problems, or idea prototypes relating to usage of SVG on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites, I'd love to see how much I can pack in. :)
I don't know if this is possible, but one feature I'd particularly like to see in Wikipedia is parametrized SVG rendering. For example, when illustrating location of each one of the 210 Slovenian municipalities, it would be cool if (a) you could only have one file with map template, and (b) then specify "[[Image:Obcine_Slovenija_2006.svg|mark_tag="Trbovlje"|color=red]]" or something like that to get this result: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Obcine_Slovenija_2006_Trbovlje.svg
In a present situation, I have to slightly modify the master SVG file and upload 210 two-megabyte files, which is not amusing. Every few years municipality borders get changed, so we have to upload 210+ two-megabyte files yet again.
Is this possible at all?
While I agree that parametrized rendering would be cool, especially for localization, I believe that maps will be a non-issue soon. Integration of automatically generated maps from OpenStreetMap is being worked on. Hopefully, we will soon have google-style interactive maps in wikipedia.
-- daniel
While I agree that parametrized rendering would be cool, especially for localization, I believe that maps will be a non-issue soon. Integration of automatically generated maps from OpenStreetMap is being worked on. Hopefully, we will soon have google-style interactive maps in wikipedia.
OSM will not make maps a non-issue at all. There will still be a need for custom maps with
a) highlighted features (query to map may help here) b) reduced detail to make certain aspects of the map stand out c) statistical, historical or other data coloring or overlaying the map
Daniel
Hoi, One of the things that Open SteetMap provides is exactly localised content. As you may know, Open StreetMap makes use of OpenLayers and we are quite happy that MinuteElectron wrote the functionality that allowed us to include OpenLayers in translatewiki.net. Now obviously there will be many maps based on Open Streetmap. The big challenge will be to make these maps once and use them with all our projects and in all our languages.
When we are able to abstract the labels from OSM and use appropriate labels, OSM will provide truly awesome functionality. When we cannot, we will find that it will pass many of our projects by. Thanks, GerardM
2009/5/15 Daniel Kinzler daniel@brightbyte.de
Roman Maurer schrieb:
Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
If anybody's got any particularly interesting issues, examples,
problems,
or idea prototypes relating to usage of SVG on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites, I'd love to see how much I can pack in. :)
I don't know if this is possible, but one feature I'd particularly like
to
see in Wikipedia is parametrized SVG rendering. For example, when illustrating location of each one of the 210 Slovenian municipalities, it would be cool if (a) you could only have one file with map template, and
(b)
then specify "[[Image:Obcine_Slovenija_2006.svg|mark_tag="Trbovlje"|color=red]]" or something like that to get this result:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Obcine_Slovenija_2006_Trbovlje.svg
In a present situation, I have to slightly modify the master SVG file and upload 210 two-megabyte files, which is not amusing. Every few years municipality borders get changed, so we have to upload 210+ two-megabyte files yet again.
Is this possible at all?
While I agree that parametrized rendering would be cool, especially for localization, I believe that maps will be a non-issue soon. Integration of automatically generated maps from OpenStreetMap is being worked on. Hopefully, we will soon have google-style interactive maps in wikipedia.
-- daniel
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Daniel Schwen schrieb:
While I agree that parametrized rendering would be cool, especially for localization, I believe that maps will be a non-issue soon. Integration of automatically generated maps from OpenStreetMap is being worked on. Hopefully, we will soon have google-style interactive maps in wikipedia.
OSM will not make maps a non-issue at all. There will still be a need for custom maps with
a) highlighted features (query to map may help here) b) reduced detail to make certain aspects of the map stand out c) statistical, historical or other data coloring or overlaying the map
Daniel
Oh sure, we will still need custom maps, though I hope OSM will support hioghlighting and such really soon. But it will be way way less. The boring, repetetive stuff that could be addressed with parametrized rendering of SVG can just as well (or better) be addressed by giving parameters to a map renderer.
-- daniel