It seems that a picture contest "Wikis Take Manhattan" has been approved by the Wikimedia Foundation and happened recently.
However, looking at the related uploaded pictures on Commons (see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wikis_Take_Manhattan_...), i think there's many problems : * All the pictures have no source and date * Most of the pictures have no description * Many needs "Personnality right warning" * Many seems to be out of Commons scope ( see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:WSTM_Three...) * Many are duplicated pictures
In a general case, most of those pictures seem not to meet Commons criteria. Please have a look at all these pictures and try to fix the problems.
Guérin Nicolas
This is being discussed at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Commons:Wikis_Take_Manhattan_and_project_scope
Giggy
On 10/17/08, Nicolas Guérin nguerin.zurich@gmail.com wrote:
It seems that a picture contest "Wikis Take Manhattan" has been approved by the Wikimedia Foundation and happened recently.
However, looking at the related uploaded pictures on Commons (see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wikis_Take_Manhattan_...), i think there's many problems :
- All the pictures have no source and date
- Most of the pictures have no description
- Many needs "Personnality right warning"
- Many seems to be out of Commons scope ( see
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:WSTM_Three...)
- Many are duplicated pictures
In a general case, most of those pictures seem not to meet Commons criteria. Please have a look at all these pictures and try to fix the problems.
Guérin Nicolas
Regardless to the content of such pictures (see village pump discussion then), i noticed that all these pictures are missing essential source information, which allow to delete them within 7 days if no source is provided. To add source is a basic Commons requirement to check author and copyright of the related pictures.
Guérin Nicolas
2008/10/17 Alex g1ggyman@gmail.com
This is being discussed at < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Commons:Wikis_Take_Ma...
Giggy
On 10/17/08, Nicolas Guérin nguerin.zurich@gmail.com wrote:
It seems that a picture contest "Wikis Take Manhattan" has been approved
by
the Wikimedia Foundation and happened recently.
However, looking at the related uploaded pictures on Commons (see
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wikis_Take_Manhattan_... ),
i think there's many problems :
- All the pictures have no source and date
- Most of the pictures have no description
- Many needs "Personnality right warning"
- Many seems to be out of Commons scope ( see
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:WSTM_Three... )
- Many are duplicated pictures
In a general case, most of those pictures seem not to meet Commons
criteria.
Please have a look at all these pictures and try to fix the problems.
Guérin Nicolas
Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Alex g1ggyman@gmail.com wrote:
This is being discussed at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Commons:Wikis_Take_Manhattan_and_project_scope
Wow. I took a look at the linked page and was a little bit disheartened by all of the negativity there.
It's a big job to organize a huge event like this with many people who may not be familiar with Wikimedia, and I would be completely shocked if every single aspect came out perfect.
So first of all I think that it's important to congratulate Richard and the NYC Wikimedians for putting together this event and getting so many new photos of local landmarks, and I hope that other local groups put together similar events in the future!
I'm not too worried that all of the details are not right immediately -- this isn't a situation where a user no one knows and no one will ever hear from again just came to dump a load of untagged images of unknown source and then leave forever; I expect everything will be tidied up and settled soon enough by the people organizing the event. And if not, there is someone to remind politely about it.
So there are some lessons here for people doing similar events in the future about things that this group wasn't prepared for; the next time can go more smoothly as people think about how to handle these issues. But I think this sort of event is very much the sort of thing we should want local groups and local chapters to do, and that the Commons community should be figuring out how to help them work even better, rather than discouraging them by being overly critical of the mistakes without acknowledging the larger effort.
Cheers, Kat
2008/10/17 Kat Walsh kat@mindspillage.org:
So first of all I think that it's important to congratulate Richard and the NYC Wikimedians for putting together this event and getting so many new photos of local landmarks, and I hope that other local groups put together similar events in the future!
I want to wholeheartedly support what Kat is saying here. Both WMF and the Chapters want to support outreach activities like the NYC project. The questions about project scope are legitimate. Within any given photo "mission", presumably only some relatively small percentage of photos taken will turn out to be actually useful.
Speaking purely as a community member, I do support, in the absence of better processes, that Commons itself is used as the quality vetting tool for these processes. And I think it'll be a learning experience how to incorporate these quality vetting processes into the event planning for future scavenger hunts.
What I think we might want to work towards is a situation where Commons can support a "holding cache" for images coming from different external sources: be it an outreach event like this, an RSS feed, the Flickr API to CC-licensed images, etc. A special page (somewhat similar to the FlickrLickr tool) could then be used to mass-edit metadata and select the images that are relevant for inclusion. That way, basic QA could be applied before the images appear as regular uploaded files on Commons.
This is something we could put some tech resources towards as a contractor project. Thoughts?
Hi!
I think images should be reviewed for freedom of panorama violations too.
Eugene.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Nicolas Guérin nguerin.zurich@gmail.com wrote:
It seems that a picture contest "Wikis Take Manhattan" has been approved by the Wikimedia Foundation and happened recently.
However, looking at the related uploaded pictures on Commons (see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wikis_Take_Manhattan_... ), i think there's many problems :
- All the pictures have no source and date
- Most of the pictures have no description
- Many needs "Personnality right warning"
- Many seems to be out of Commons scope ( see
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:WSTM_Three... )
- Many are duplicated pictures
In a general case, most of those pictures seem not to meet Commons criteria. Please have a look at all these pictures and try to fix the problems.
Guérin Nicolas
Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
On 10/17/08, Nicolas Guérin nguerin.zurich@gmail.com wrote:
It seems that a picture contest "Wikis Take Manhattan" has been approved by the Wikimedia Foundation and happened recently.
[...]
In a general case, most of those pictures seem not to meet Commons criteria. Please have a look at all these pictures and try to fix the problems.
Whoever came up with this idea should be sentenced to 20 years of boredom.
—C.W.
2008/10/18 Charlotte Webb charlottethewebb@gmail.com:
On 10/17/08, Nicolas Guérin nguerin.zurich@gmail.com wrote:
It seems that a picture contest "Wikis Take Manhattan" has been approved by the Wikimedia Foundation and happened recently. In a general case, most of those pictures seem not to meet Commons criteria. Please have a look at all these pictures and try to fix the problems.
Whoever came up with this idea should be sentenced to 20 years of boredom.
*applause*
- d.