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Joe Szilagyi

15 Oct 2008 15 Oct '08

8:36 p.m.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/ I'd never heard of this project before I saw it on Boing Boing today. A million freely licensed images of the UK-- have there ever been any discussion of getting with them, to get these on Commons? - Joe

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Gregory Maxwell

15 Oct 15 Oct

8:44 p.m.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Joe Szilagyi <szilagyi(a)gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/ I'd never heard of this project before I saw it on Boing Boing today. A million freely licensed images of the UK-- have there ever been any discussion of getting with them, to get these on Commons?

I mirrored the whole site a while back (only 700k images then), converted all their metadata to commons compatible stuff, etc. But I encountered mixed feelings on the value on adding the images. Most of them are low quality, uninteresting, etc. In terms of coverage the collection is impressive and useful, but it isn't in pretty much any other way. If people want this I'd be glad to make it happen. It's not even all that expensive in terms of disk space since most of the images are fairly small.

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Daniel Schwen

9:02 p.m.

In terms of coverage the collection is impressive and useful, but it isn't in pretty much any other way. If people want this I'd be glad to make it happen. It's not even all that expensive in terms of disk space since most of the images are fairly small.

Tons of geograph images have already been uploaded to commons. Check the WikiMiniAtlas http://stable.toolserver.org/wma over Great Britain. Their thumbs are displayed smaller to indicate lower picture resolution. I also recently ran a bot [1] that grabbed location data from the geograph website and completed incomplete image descriptions (adding over 5000 thousand location templates). Anyhow. I share Greg's feelings on the image quality. Those pics that have been uploaded are there, but I don't think we should drive to upload further stuff from that site, unless it is really needed in our sister projects. [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2008Jul#Oops… -- [[en:User:Dschwen]] [[de:Benutzer:Dschwen]] [[commons:User:Dschwen]]

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Charlotte Webb

8:54 p.m.

On 10/15/08, Joe Szilagyi <szilagyi(a)gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/ I'd never heard of this project before I saw it on Boing Boing today. A million freely licensed images of the UK-- have there ever been any discussion of getting with them, to get these on Commons?

Specifically they say:

"In addition, we require all submitters to adopt a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike licence"

So there would be no real need to discuss, only to comply with the terms of the licence [sic]. Better questions would be how well they police themselves for plagiarism, and whether they have any internal quality control mechanism (i.e. do they routinely delete patently useless images). —C.W.

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Robin Schwab

9:42 p.m.

Charlotte Webb schrieb:

terms of the licence [sic]. Better questions would be how well they

police themselves for plagiarism, and whether they have any internal quality control mechanism (i.e. do they routinely delete patently useless images).

That's a good argument Charlotte. It may lead to a question for ourselves: Do we routinely delete patently useless images? After a look to our backlog for deletion requests and the number of useless images we host I'd say we fulfill the requirement only partially. Cordially Robin

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Howard Cheng

9:10 p.m.

I think many of them have already been uploaded. See <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=geograph.co.uk&go=Go> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Joe Szilagyi <szilagyi(a)gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/ I'd never heard of this project before I saw it on Boing Boing today. A million freely licensed images of the UK-- have there ever been any discussion of getting with them, to get these on Commons? - Joe

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Gregory Maxwell

9:15 p.m.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Howard Cheng <howard(a)howcheng.com> wrote:

I think many of them have already been uploaded. See <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=geograph.co.uk&go=Go>

Only a few thousand here and there unless I missed something.

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Huib Laurens

9:30 p.m.

Hi, I think it's a nice source when we need a free picture on a wmf project and there is non already on commons. But uploading them all or a lot is not needed Huib 2008/10/15, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com>om>:

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Howard Cheng <howard(a)howcheng.com> wrote:

I think many of them have already been uploaded. See <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=geograph.co.uk&go=Go>

Only a few thousand here and there unless I missed something. _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

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Daniel Schwen

9:33 p.m.

On Wednesday 15 October 2008 04:15:46 pm Gregory Maxwell wrote:

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Howard Cheng <howard(a)howcheng.com> wrote: > I think many of them have already been uploaded. See > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=geograph.co.uk&g >o=Go>

Well, it's geograph.*org*.uk, and you might as well look at [[:Category:Geograph_images]]

Only a few thousand here and there unless I missed something.

9,562 :-) So they have what, a little over a million? I'd say thanks, but no thanks. It really is a pity that they rescale to 640 pixels. If we import all of them we'd be essentially duplicating their hosting effort with a much worse interface (no offense), and we'd just clutter up our picture collection with technically inferior images (and I challenge you to categorize them all!). -- [[en:User:Dschwen]] [[de:Benutzer:Dschwen]] [[commons:User:Dschwen]]

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geni

16 Oct 16 Oct

12:01 p.m.

2008/10/15 Joe Szilagyi <szilagyi(a)gmail.com>om>:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/ I'd never heard of this project before I saw it on Boing Boing today. A million freely licensed images of the UK-- have there ever been any discussion of getting with them, to get these on Commons? - Joe

It is a know resource. Low resolution counts against them but their wide coverage can come in handy (for example their picture of bishop's rock lighthouse is better than ours). -- geni

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Magnus Manske

12:12 p.m.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

2008/10/15 Joe Szilagyi <szilagyi(a)gmail.com>om>:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/ I'd never heard of this project before I saw it on Boing Boing today. A million freely licensed images of the UK-- have there ever been any discussion of getting with them, to get these on Commons? - Joe

It is a know resource. Low resolution counts against them but their wide coverage can come in handy (for example their picture of bishop's rock lighthouse is better than ours).

Note that my free image finder http://toolserver.org/~magnus/fist.php uses it as a source for several month now. Magnus

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Charlotte Webb
Daniel Schwen
geni
Gregory Maxwell
Howard Cheng
Huib Laurens
Joe Szilagyi
Magnus Manske
Robin Schwab