On 12/4/06, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:

I think threatening to delete all uploads is not a good option. I don't think you are actually even allowed to delete _all_ of somebody's contributions based on the fact that the majority of them is a copyvio.

Sure we are, if we as a community choose to do so. It's our ball, we make the rules.

I think talking is the best option. If he doesnt react or continues, a short ban might be on the right place in my opinion, so that we have the time to clean up the mess.

I agree that talking is the best option. Ideally we should get him to clean it up himself. If he will not, then we must weigh the options.

If his images are too suspect it may be best to delete them all, or perhaps it will not be. That is for the community to decide. After some more thought and investigation I might support such a decision myself.

After seeing images such as http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Joydivision_setembro1978.jpg, and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Gameboycolor.gif I must admit that I'm not to inclined to trust anything coming in via that path.

There are also a *lot* of images which are web-thumbnail resolution with strange borders or bevels which look suspect.... and no shortage of logos http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Foobar.png incorrectly labled as GFDL... and .. and .. and..

The problem is that he's "using Pywikipediabothttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_the_python_wikipediabotto upload many files to commons". I wrote him (in english, though) not to use this bot. We have Polski speakers administrators in commons, I guess we can explain him that he sould understand what *exactly *he's doing.

Best regards, Yuval Y user:Yuval Y

On 12/5/06, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:

On 05/12/06, Artur Fijałkowski wiki.warx@gmail.com wrote:

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I see, that someone (user:LeonardoG) is making great job moving images from pt.wiki to Commons...

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&tar...

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Yeah ... great, but:

• He doesn't categorise it
• He doesn't put them into galleries
• He doesn't change stupid filenames to normal (eg. DSC_XXXXXX.JPG)
• He moves copyvios from pt.wiki (I've found book cover, DVD screen,

CD Audio with cover, Hagrid's figurine, image of character from SouthPark ...)

So it's not great at all...

So my question is:

what to do with such users ?

If they have already done significant damage, write them a strongly worded personal note as a last warning asking them to stop. If they continue to upload without responding, block them (short block to get their attention). Request that they understand our rules and clean up their existing mess before doing any more uploads. Once the block expires, if they ignore this and continue to upload, block them again (this time a bit longer).

Continue until stream of copyvios ceases (user learns, or gives up due to lengths of blocks).

We should feel confident in blocking users who (maybe inadvertently) cause disruption like this.

regards, Brianna user:pfctdayelise _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

"using Pywikipediabothttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_the_python_wikipediabotto upload many files to commons" He's lucky it works :)

Anyway, I think commonshelper should somehow be able to copy the images itself (I know the toolserver doesn't have full replication), just dreaming...

Bence

On 12/5/06, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:

On 12/4/06, Artur Fijałkowski wiki.warx@gmail.com wrote:

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So my question is:

what to do with such users ?

Make him use CommonsHelper [1] to move images from existing wikipedia instead. Make sure he doesn't touch anything that says "fair use", though ;-)

Magnus

[1] http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/commonshelper.php _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

Artur Fijałkowski wrote:

The main problem with moving images using bot is it's blindness...

Mentioned user copied some copyvios from pt.wiki licensed as CC-BY-SA because he didn't watch those images, but probably simple move images using linked to license template :(

And this thing I want you to remember:

Never, never, never do this!

We had 2-3 months ago same problem with move of PD images from fr.wiki

• wrong PD template (deprecated {{PD}}), no categories, galleries,

lots of duplicates of images that were already on commons with other names, overwriting existing images with unrelated content with same name ...

Bot is good and nice toy, but it's very dangerous in unexperienced hands...

That's a good point: did they get approval to use the bot? If not, why weren't they blocked for running an unauthorised bot?

2006/12/5, Bence Damokos bdamokos@gmail.com:

Hi! Yeah using a bot is a blind thing, as you don't see the image itself, but isn't the goal to have all free images in one place?

Not necessarily. In my opinion Commons is there as a repository of *really free* *useful* images. Images should be findable - this means having a good description, having a category or being on a gallery page. Preferably 2 or 3 of those. Any picture that does not have those and also does not have a *very* descriptive filename is increasing the file count of Commons, but not its usefulness to the projects, which in my opinion is the first thing that is of importance.