Hi all:
Dan Watts, who is helping Mike Godwin here in our San Francisco office, has drafted some templates to be used for DMCA takedown notices, as well as some DMCA counterclaims.
As these impact Commons as much as any one Wikimedia community, it is our hope that community can come together to discuss these templates and incorporate the suggestions offered herein, to improve the lines of communication between the community and the Wikimedia Foundation when it has been directed to remove materials in accordance with DMCA.
The templates and suggestions are located at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memo_-_WMF_DMCA_takedown_and_counterclaim_notificatino_template_draft_1_Watts.pdf http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memo_-_WMF_DMCA_putback_notification_template_Watts_V2.pdf
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On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Cary Bass cary@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi all:
Dan Watts, who is helping Mike Godwin here in our San Francisco office, has drafted some templates to be used for DMCA takedown notices, as well as some DMCA counterclaims.
As these impact Commons as much as any one Wikimedia community, it is our hope that community can come together to discuss these templates and incorporate the suggestions offered herein, to improve the lines of communication between the community and the Wikimedia Foundation when it has been directed to remove materials in accordance with DMCA.
The templates and suggestions are located at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memo_-_WMF_DMCA_takedown_and_counterclaim_notificatino_template_draft_1_Watts.pdf http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memo_-_WMF_DMCA_putback_notification_template_Watts_V2.pdf
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I'm concerned that these create an impression that you can counter-claim the community.
E.g. If a file gets DMCA noticed, you counter claim, but the community decides that the file isn't legit (regardless of your counter claim) we're not going to keep the file. ... not at all due to the DMCA but due to our own community editorial policy.
Cary Bass wrote:
Hi all:
Dan Watts, who is helping Mike Godwin here in our San Francisco office, has drafted some templates to be used for DMCA takedown notices, as well as some DMCA counterclaims.
As these impact Commons as much as any one Wikimedia community, it is our hope that community can come together to discuss these templates and incorporate the suggestions offered herein, to improve the lines of communication between the community and the Wikimedia Foundation when it has been directed to remove materials in accordance with DMCA.
The templates and suggestions are located at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memo_-_WMF_DMCA_takedown_and_counterclaim_notificatino_template_draft_1_Watts.pdf http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memo_-_WMF_DMCA_putback_notification_template_Watts_V2.pdf
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From File:Memo - WMF DMCA takedown and counterclaim notificatino
template draft 1 Watts.pdf it looks like the name address and telephone willl only be revealed to the claimant.
However, Memo - WMF DMCA putback notification template Watts V2.pdf makes it look like the full counterclaim will be publicly shown to everybody, which doesn't seem a good idea, since our counterclaims are likely to come from individuals.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Cary Bass wrote:
Hi all:
Dan Watts, who is helping Mike Godwin here in our San Francisco office, has drafted some templates to be used for DMCA takedown notices, as well as some DMCA counterclaims.
As these impact Commons as much as any one Wikimedia community, it is our hope that community can come together to discuss these templates and incorporate the suggestions offered herein, to improve the lines of communication between the community and the Wikimedia Foundation when it has been directed to remove materials in accordance with DMCA.
The templates and suggestions are located at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memo_-_WMF_DMCA_takedown_and_counterclaim_notificatino_template_draft_1_Watts.pdf http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memo_-_WMF_DMCA_putback_notification_template_Watts_V2.pdf
I'll be cross-posting this message to the Commons Village Pump.
From File:Memo - WMF DMCA takedown and counterclaim notificatino template draft 1 Watts.pdf it looks like the name address and telephone willl only be revealed to the claimant.
However, Memo - WMF DMCA putback notification template Watts V2.pdf makes it look like the full counterclaim will be publicly shown to everybody, which doesn't seem a good idea, since our counterclaims are likely to come from individuals.
I don't think we really want to post it all publicly, OTOH, if a reuser is harassed by someone claiming to be a copyright holder they ought to have access to the same person who made the counter claim for us. Otherwise the resuability of the repository is significantly harmed as reusers, without access to the same information as us, would be subject to DMCA threats that they can't answer.