I agree.
Laleena
---- Original Message ---- From: bastique@bellsouth.net To: commons-l@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:16:03 -0500
It must have been a mental infarction. Galleries are done using native language and redirects. Categories have generally been done in English.
> -----Original Message----- > From: commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org > [mailto:commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Brianna Laugher > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:43 PM > To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons > > > On 02/01/07, Cary Bass <bastique@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > I am fairly certain that the policy on Commons is that cities and other > > localities are in the native language. Therefore München and Praha are > > absolutely correct and the categories must be fixed. > > No... > did you ever notice [[category:??]] ? (or even worse, maybe > [[category:transport in ??]]?) > > Nobody likes enforcing English-only categories to further Anglo-saxon > supremism or the like, but until we have proper category redirects... > > regards, > Brianna > user:pfctdayelise > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list > Commons-l@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: > 1/1/2007 2:50 PM > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/1/2007 2:50 PM _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
In the recent days I noticed an increase in conflicts about category renaming. Two cases: Category:Churches_in_Italy (and others) and Category:Cities_and_villages_by_country
I think we would benefit from a formalized system for category renamings. The damage is enormous if a well working category tree gets destroyed or damaged. Currently all places worldwide are categorized as cities independent of their size!
An idea could be that there must be a deletion request for the category to be moved. What do you think of this?
Regards
Robin
I really find this entire discussion unhelpful. Yelling at each other will not solve software issues we face.
As for my stance (just to identify the problem): We currently have a mess with "country" specific categories and galleries (Country names City names and etc). It is very hard to follow what certain pages supposed to lead to... (I can't read Arabic script for example).
What we want is multi-lingual page names. There are a few existing solutions we may want to consider:
1. First one is {{DISPLAYTITLE:<title>}}. This Magic-word template if turned on renames the title of the page no matter what it really is. 2. Then we also have class="multilingual" as it is used on meta.wikimedia.org. You can see it in action at [[meta:Stewards/elections 2006-2 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/elections_2006-2]]. I do not believe this feature is turned on on commons. 3. The combination of #1 and #2. class="multilingual" can be used to manipulate the {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} usages and display title based on language setting. I am not certain how well that would work.
Obviously a mediawiki rewrite to make it simpler and would be preferable.
- Cool Cat
On 1/3/07, jfulrich@mailaka.net jfulrich@mailaka.net wrote:
I agree.
Laleena---- Original Message ---- From: bastique@bellsouth.net To: commons-l@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:16:03 -0500
It must have been a mental infarction. Galleries are done using native language and redirects. Categories have generally been done in English.
> -----Original Message----- > From: commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org > [mailto:commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Brianna Laugher > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:43 PM > To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons > > > On 02/01/07, Cary Bass <bastique@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > I am fairly certain that the policy on Commons is that cities and other > > localities are in the native language. Therefore München and Praha are > > absolutely correct and the categories must be fixed. > > No... > did you ever notice [[category:??]] ? (or even worse, maybe > [[category:transport in ??]]?) > > Nobody likes enforcing English-only categories to further Anglo-saxon > supremism or the like, but until we have proper category redirects... > > regards, > Brianna > user:pfctdayelise > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list > Commons-l@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: > 1/1/2007 2:50 PM > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/1/2007 2:50 PM _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
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