For every award winning photo that a photographer takes, there are hundreds of other photos of that exact event, the minutes leading up to the event, and the minutes immediately after the event. A photographer will shoot a roll of film, and the remaining photos, deemed "not quite so good," are put away forever in what photo houses and newspapers call the "morgue." These are the "second-best" images, and the images that did not quite make the light of day because, although they were good, they were not quite good enough.
Perhaps, instead of getting Corbis's best shots, we should try to liberate the second-best ones--the ones in the morgue that aren't quite as famous but could serve our ends as well.
Danny
In a message dated 10/15/2006 3:48:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wgfinley@dynascope.com writes:
Go to apimages.com and you will see a few hundred images we can't produce. They are timeless and unique just like the two photos I worked with them to get permissions on -- Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima and Trang Bang.
Same thing with CORBIS, go to their website, type in a name and start watching all the photos that come up. Could we get some of these as press publicity photos? Probably, asserting fair use. How about having an agreement in place with CORBIS about our use of them so there is never a question about the legitimacy of the use of an image?
We should never stop looking for the free sources of images that we can obtain. But there are a whole slew of historical photographs owned by these media houses we do not have access to and that's what I was getting at. I know, because I've deleted them before. The press is everywhere and over decades has acquired scores of important images, I'd like to use them, LEGALLY while protecting the rights of their creators. A big pile of money would help us do that.
--Guy
On Oct 15, 2006, at 1:41 PM, geni wrote:
On 10/15/06, W. Guy Finley wgfinley@dynascope.com wrote:
Ahhh, i'm remembering why I'm on hiatus. Dream a little........so someone can come and piss on it.
If you don't identify problems you can't improve things. What do AP have that we don't and have no reasonable way of getting?
Photos of newsworthy events where there was no US miltitry presence. Now aside from AP and simular who has these photos?
Buying up big photo archives has some attactions but it is likely we would waste a lot of money on stuff we could have produced anyway.
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On 10/15/06, daniwo59@aol.com daniwo59@aol.com wrote:
For every award winning photo that a photographer takes, there are hundreds of other photos of that exact event, the minutes leading up to the event, and the minutes immediately after the event. A photographer will shoot a roll of film, and the remaining photos, deemed "not quite so good," are put away forever in what photo houses and newspapers call the "morgue." These are the "second-best" images, and the images that did not quite make the light of day because, although they were good, they were not quite good enough.
Perhaps, instead of getting Corbis's best shots, we should try to liberate the second-best ones--the ones in the morgue that aren't quite as famous but could serve our ends as well.
Danny
But where would these photos end up?