Hello!
I'd like to notify you about a project just launched on fr.wikipedia.org. We put in place a partnership with a first printer to distribute posters of commons' pictures and diagrams (when displayed on fr.wikipedia.org).
There is a link, now visible by everyone, on image pages that proposes "Obtenir un poster de cette image" e.g. "Get a poster of this image". This links opens a menu proposing several (but currently still only one) printers. When you click on "Order with WikiPosters" (name of the first printer), you are redirected on the printer website that proposes sizes of posters. The poster is sent within 24h. The poster is delivered with a page containing licence and author info (if GFDL only, it is also provided).
The first printer is established in France and already donated 500€ to the Foundation, 500€ to Wikimedia France and will keep giving 1.50€ per poster to Wikimedia France. Giving to Wikimedia France allows the printer to deduce in France 60% of the donation.
The project page: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Impression/en (translation in English)
An example... (only English and French user-languages display the menu) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whole_world_-_land_and_oceans_12000.jpg
Best regards, Plyd
Hello,
That sounds very good and it is a great idea for Wikimedia Frence to make money.
But what about the Licence and Author? Is that also on the poster? Or only on a paper with the poster?
Cheers, Huib
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Huib Laurens sterkebak@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
That sounds very good and it is a great idea for Wikimedia Frence to make money.
But what about the Licence and Author? Is that also on the poster? Or only on a paper with the poster?
It is on several pages provided with the poster. The paper contains whole image page from commons, with links expanded at the bottom, and GFDL at the end, if GFDL-only.
Cheers, Plyd
On December 19, Plyd wrote:
There is a link, now visible by everyone, on image pages that proposes "Obtenir un poster de cette image" e.g. "Get a poster of this image". This links opens a menu proposing several (but currently still only one) printers. When you click on "Order with WikiPosters" (name of the first printer), you are redirected on the printer website that proposes sizes of posters. The poster is sent within 24h. The poster is delivered with a page containing licence and author info (if GFDL only, it is also provided).
An interesting side effect of this system is that more people will get an understanding that commercial reuse of images is allowed.
But when you describe how posters are sent within 24 hours, and this first printer has donated some money, how will this scale to the next printer who wants to join? Is delivery within 24 hours a requirement for all new printers, or just an aspect of the first one? With multiple printers, how will the user be able to understand the varying pricing and conditions from different printers? If something goes wrong, does the user understand whether to blame the printer or Wikimedia France?
I know we already have links from ISBNs to various booksellers. The difference is that these have sold books long before Wikipedia started to link to them. Nobody who buys a book from Amazon.fr will believe they bought it from Wikimedia France. But how is this with an image printer named Wikiposters.fr?
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Lars Aronsson lars@aronsson.se wrote:
On December 19, Plyd wrote:
There is a link, now visible by everyone, on image pages that proposes "Obtenir un poster de cette image" e.g. "Get a poster of this image". This links opens a menu proposing several (but currently still only one) printers. When you click on "Order with WikiPosters" (name of the first printer), you are redirected on the printer website that proposes sizes of posters. The poster is sent within 24h. The poster is delivered with a page containing licence and author info (if GFDL only, it is also provided).
An interesting side effect of this system is that more people will get an understanding that commercial reuse of images is allowed.
I'd like to emphasize this point, but that's hard to do. The menu should be kept small if we don't want people to get confused. Maybe we could add a message anyway?
But when you describe how posters are sent within 24 hours, and this first printer has donated some money, how will this scale to the next printer who wants to join? Is delivery within 24 hours a requirement for all new printers, or just an aspect of the first one? With multiple printers, how will the user be able to understand the varying pricing and conditions from different printers?
There are several lines per printer. When another printer will be added, another line will be added with its own comments. Delivery, paper, donation may then be different. When we will have several printers, the size of the comment should probably be studied again, I think.
If something goes wrong, does the user understand whether to blame the printer or Wikimedia France?
let's guess... the commons community? ;) unfortunatly I don't really know, this will depend on the kind of problem, bad printing -> the printer, licence problem -> check on commons.... Wikimedia France will probably be outside this since it only receive *donations* from the printer that could be donated to anyone else. Even if things are clear for us, I still agree that we should be very transparent to users, as well as reactive.
I know we already have links from ISBNs to various booksellers. The difference is that these have sold books long before Wikipedia started to link to them.
So did the online printers for posters...
Nobody who buys a book from Amazon.fr will believe they bought it from Wikimedia France. But how is this with an image printer named Wikiposters.fr?
here is the point. I'm open to any idea to make it the clearest possible for user.
Plyd