So I'm learning Perl now. So I needed a project to sharpen my programming claws with. So I remembered people not happy with the MediaWiki commons interface. So I thought I'd steal from the best and wrote a new one.
Flickr-Like cOMMONS = Flommons
Misc examples: * Single picture http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=&mode=single_...
* Files uploaded by a user (newest images first) http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=&foruser=Magn...
* Category view (newest images first) http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=&mode=categor...
* Welcome screen (as me, though there's no real login) http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=Magnus_Manske
* Search results http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=Magnus_Manske&...
Notes: * Can be slooow at times, since there's no index on img_user/img_user_text * No login or upload (yet?) * Normal blue links stay in Flommons, light-blue links go to Commons
The thing is a single Perl script. Maybe I should go and rewrite MediaWiki like that. Oh wait... (anyone aroung long enough to get this joke?)
Magnus
P.S.: Comments always welcome :-)
Magnus Manske wrote:
So I'm learning Perl now. So I needed a project to sharpen my programming claws with. So I remembered people not happy with the MediaWiki commons interface. So I thought I'd steal from the best and wrote a new one.
Flickr-Like cOMMONS = Flommons
Nice work
- Can be slooow at times, since there's no index on img_user/img_user_text
How does MW handle that then? Or do you mean on the toolserver? (=poke DaB)
- No login or upload (yet?)
- Normal blue links stay in Flommons, light-blue links go to Commons
You should add red-links (or is it light-red?) for non-existing pages (as most image talk).
The thing is a single Perl script. Maybe I should go and rewrite MediaWiki like that. Oh wait... (anyone aroung long enough to get this joke?)
easy: [[Mediawiki#History]] But wait... how is it you're learning Perl *now*?
Magnus
P.S.: Comments always welcome :-)
Is it viewable? common.php?common_source=flommons.pl is blank ;)
PS: {{CopyrightByWikimedia}} images doesn't show license, i guess they pd? :D
Looks great. Pity you can't edit etc. from it. This would require a login :( Maybe also a flickr like authentication system should be implemented :) [1]
But wouldn't big parts not be implementable as a skin?
Bryan
[1] http://www.flickr.com/services/api/misc.userauth.html
On 3/21/07, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Magnus Manske wrote:
So I'm learning Perl now. So I needed a project to sharpen my programming claws with. So I remembered people not happy with the MediaWiki commons interface. So I thought I'd steal from the best and wrote a new one.
Flickr-Like cOMMONS = Flommons
Nice work
- Can be slooow at times, since there's no index on img_user/img_user_text
How does MW handle that then? Or do you mean on the toolserver? (=poke DaB)
- No login or upload (yet?)
- Normal blue links stay in Flommons, light-blue links go to Commons
You should add red-links (or is it light-red?) for non-existing pages (as most image talk).
The thing is a single Perl script. Maybe I should go and rewrite MediaWiki like that. Oh wait... (anyone aroung long enough to get this joke?)
easy: [[Mediawiki#History]] But wait... how is it you're learning Perl *now*?
Magnus
P.S.: Comments always welcome :-)
Is it viewable? common.php?common_source=flommons.pl is blank ;)
PS: {{CopyrightByWikimedia}} images doesn't show license, i guess they pd? :D
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On 3/21/07, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
Looks great. Pity you can't edit etc. from it. This would require a login :( Maybe also a flickr like authentication system should be implemented :) [1]
Of course, I can have you enter username and password for commons on flommons, and just shove it ot commons to do something. But, how many would feel comfortable with that? (of course, I could just offer it, and leave it up to da people;-)
But wouldn't big parts not be implementable as a skin?
I doubt that. The skins just define layout and colors and the like. They can only display the content served my core MediaWiki in a different way. I don't think any of the views flommons offers is offered by MediaWiki, at least not like that (well, maybe categories).
Magnus
On 3/21/07, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Magnus Manske wrote:
So I'm learning Perl now. So I needed a project to sharpen my programming claws with. So I remembered people not happy with the MediaWiki commons interface. So I thought I'd steal from the best and wrote a new one.
Flickr-Like cOMMONS = Flommons
Nice work
Thanks.
- Can be slooow at times, since there's no index on img_user/img_user_text
How does MW handle that then? Or do you mean on the toolserver? (=poke DaB)
It doesn't. I don't see a link on commons that says "user gallery". It's only relevant for pages that show files uploaded by a single user. Also, the search uses MySQL LIKE "%" stuff, which tends to be long even on an index.
- No login or upload (yet?)
- Normal blue links stay in Flommons, light-blue links go to Commons
You should add red-links (or is it light-red?) for non-existing pages (as most image talk).
Good idea.
The thing is a single Perl script. Maybe I should go and rewrite MediaWiki like that. Oh wait... (anyone aroung long enough to get this joke?)
easy: [[Mediawiki#History]] But wait... how is it you're learning Perl *now*?
Yeah... I kinda avoided that by rewriting everything in PHP the other day ;-)
Is it viewable? common.php?common_source=flommons.pl is blank ;)
Not yet, which is good, because it contains my database pwd in plain text ;-)
PS: {{CopyrightByWikimedia}} images doesn't show license, i guess they pd? :D
Currently, all categories that contain "PD" or "GFDL" or "CC-" are considered licenses ;-)
Magnus
Magnus Manske wrote:
- Can be slooow at times, since there's no index on img_user/img_user_text
How does MW handle that then? Or do you mean on the toolserver? (=poke DaB)
It doesn't. I don't see a link on commons that says "user gallery". It's only relevant for pages that show files uploaded by a single user. Also, the search uses MySQL LIKE "%" stuff, which tends to be long even on an index.
You're right. Gallery is on the toolserver and user contributions are of edit and not uploads... but we can check it on the log http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=upload...
PS: {{CopyrightByWikimedia}} images doesn't show license, i guess they pd? :D
Currently, all categories that contain "PD" or "GFDL" or "CC-" are considered licenses ;-)
This license checking makes things a lot easier.
I see you added description. Remember to add CSS border:0 for the images!
THAT'S PRETTY FREAKING MAD.
What Flommons should do, is index each image page without the '.jpg' on the end, so images get picked up by google, and then google users get taken to pretty Flommons, rather than scary unfriendly Commons. maybe.
Flommons could be the interface for people who don't care about wikis, and just want to find interesting content.
cheers Brianna
On 22/03/07, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
So I'm learning Perl now. So I needed a project to sharpen my programming claws with. So I remembered people not happy with the MediaWiki commons interface. So I thought I'd steal from the best and wrote a new one.
Flickr-Like cOMMONS = Flommons
Misc examples:
- Single picture
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=&mode=single_...
- Files uploaded by a user (newest images first)
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=&foruser=Magn...
- Category view (newest images first)
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=&mode=categor...
- Welcome screen (as me, though there's no real login)
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=Magnus_Manske
- Search results
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/cgi-bin/flommons.pl?user=Magnus_Manske&...
Notes:
- Can be slooow at times, since there's no index on img_user/img_user_text
- No login or upload (yet?)
- Normal blue links stay in Flommons, light-blue links go to Commons
The thing is a single Perl script. Maybe I should go and rewrite MediaWiki like that. Oh wait... (anyone aroung long enough to get this joke?)
Magnus
P.S.: Comments always welcome :-)
Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
On 22/03/07, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
Flommons could be the interface for people who don't care about wikis, and just want to find interesting content.
Yeah, and great work. If this were to be presented to some users, it'd be nice to get away from looking too much like Flickr.
On 3/21/07, Oldak Quill oldakquill@gmail.com wrote:
On 22/03/07, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
Flommons could be the interface for people who don't care about wikis, and just want to find interesting content.
Yeah, and great work. If this were to be presented to some users, it'd be nice to get away from looking too much like Flickr.
-- Oldak Quill (oldakquill@gmail.com)
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{{copyvio}} *chuckles*
What Flommons should do, is index each image page without the '.jpg' on the end, so images get picked up by google, and then google users get taken to pretty Flommons, rather than scary unfriendly Commons. maybe.
Hmmm, pages are created by Flommons on request, so I am not certain that they would be indexed by Google ; it's an example of Dark Web, unless I have misunderstood something.
-- Rama
On 22/03/07, Rama Rama ramaneko@gmail.com wrote:
What Flommons should do, is index each image page without the '.jpg' on the end, so images get picked up by google, and then google users get taken to pretty Flommons, rather than scary unfriendly Commons. maybe.
Hmmm, pages are created by Flommons on request, so I am not certain that they would be indexed by Google ; it's an example of Dark Web, unless I have misunderstood something.
FWIW, my understanding of "dark web" is content that is inaccessible to indexes. The content is already accessible, just not in this format.
Brianna Laugher wrote:
THAT'S PRETTY FREAKING MAD.
What Flommons should do, is index each image page without the '.jpg' on the end, so images get picked up by google, and then google users get taken to pretty Flommons, rather than scary unfriendly Commons. maybe.
Whe i presented a patch to help search engines on image indexing Brion wrote: "Note that at least Google has already fixed this particular problem and indexes our image pages just fine." If they're not we should inform our release manager. ;-) http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9248#c3
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Brianna Laugher wrote:
What Flommons should do, is index each image page without the '.jpg' on the end, so images get picked up by google,
Image pages already get picked up by google; that issue was sorted out on their end last year.
Of course that's separate from the fact that Commons currently has a terrible, terrible user interface.
- -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
On 23/03/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
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Brianna Laugher wrote:
What Flommons should do, is index each image page without the '.jpg' on the end, so images get picked up by google,
Image pages already get picked up by google; that issue was sorted out on their end last year.
Hm, so it now appears... although why can't I go site-specific image searches for Commons, I wonder?
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&gbv=2&q=beijing+s...
cheers Brianna