On 21 August 2013 07:49, Terry Chay <tchay(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: ... As a Commons user responsible for over 2.5 million edits, I would hope that the WMF do not label or quickly dismiss me as an "extremist" if I raise some questions about this notification. I am concerned about how many valuable bot activities a mandated move to https might break. Some will be fixed by operators such as myself changing account preferences to force an opt-out or re-writing code, however many useful bot activities have semi-retired operators, particularly on Commons, and some are bound to just never be fixed and their value will be lost. In planning this change, has some support effort been allocated to fixing or re-hosting the bots that break (such as taking the option of 'remotely' setting community-identified useful bots to opt-out of https, at least for a test period, rather than forcing an opt-in) and has there been a survey of this impact? Though I agree we don't expect "100% buy-in", as an active volunteer, batch uploader and bot writer, I would have expected to have been given a friendly, non-confrontational and relaxed opportunity to raise and consider these issues in a RFC or other consensus building discussion on my home project and engage in discussion there, rather than, apparently, no buy-in needed from us unpaid volunteers and content creators. Thanks, Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm