As you might, or might not know, I have been quite busy with Flickr lately, especially with [[User:FlickreviewR]]. I have written two tools (or actually, one tool with two functions) with helps Commons users with images for Flickr.
The first is a database of all images reviewed images from Flickr: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/flickr/browse You can search on nsid, username, photo_id, link, and Commons image. The database contains over 28,000 images, which is over 70% of the total number of Flickr images on Commons :) [1]
Now the second tool is really handy (imho ;P). It allows you to easily upload images from Flickr: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/flickr/upload :) All images uploaded by this tool are guaranteed to be tagged under a free Creative Commons license at upload time. Hopefully this will make it easier to upload images from Flickr, reduce the number of copyvios and make sure that only hi res images are uploaded.
All images are still in beta; by using this tools you are subject to the Commons Licensing and Project scope policies, etc. etc.; Please report errors to [[User talk:Bryan]]. If you find any security bug in the upload part, the bot that performs the uploads and to be blocked is Flickr_upload_bot.
:D, Bryan
[1] I do have a database of more than 95% of all Flickr images, but a lot of them are unreviewed. Human reviewed images are daily added to the database.
On 17/05/07, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
As you might, or might not know, I have been quite busy with Flickr lately, especially with [[User:FlickreviewR]]. I have written two tools (or actually, one tool with two functions) with helps Commons users with images for Flickr.
The first is a database of all images reviewed images from Flickr: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/flickr/browse You can search on nsid, username, photo_id, link, and Commons image. The database contains over 28,000 images, which is over 70% of the total number of Flickr images on Commons :) [1]
Whose username, Flickr or Commons? And if Commons is that reviewer or uploader or what? What is nsid? No search I tried actually returned any results. Bit more help, please?
Now the second tool is really handy (imho ;P). It allows you to easily upload images from Flickr:
If you find any security bug in
the upload part, the bot that performs the uploads and to be blocked is Flickr_upload_bot.
Magnus had a similar idea, a bot that performed transfers from (eg) Wikipedia to Commons. I asked him to disable it...
I kind of have a problem with this is in that it allows essentially anonymous uploads. At least in this case they are restricted to images from flickr with suitable licenses, that is better than totally anonymous, but still. What stops me putting the username 'Bryan' in and putting up whatever irrelevant, offensive, invasive, stupid images I can find on Flickr? oh... nothing.
I think there's a good reason MediaWiki requires users to be logged in before uploading, and I don't think we should use bots that circumvent that requirement.
At the very least I think there should be a bot approval thing for this bot, where we can discuss as a community if we want to allow this kind of thing to happen.
cheers Brianna user:pfctdayelise
On 5/17/07, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
On 17/05/07, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
As you might, or might not know, I have been quite busy with Flickr lately, especially with [[User:FlickreviewR]]. I have written two tools (or actually, one tool with two functions) with helps Commons users with images for Flickr.
The first is a database of all images reviewed images from Flickr: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/flickr/browse You can search on nsid, username, photo_id, link, and Commons image. The database contains over 28,000 images, which is over 70% of the total number of Flickr images on Commons :) [1]
Whose username, Flickr or Commons? And if Commons is that reviewer or uploader or what? What is nsid? No search I tried actually returned any results. Bit more help, please?
Flickr. This part needs some help indeed.
Now the second tool is really handy (imho ;P). It allows you to easily upload images from Flickr:
If you find any security bug in
the upload part, the bot that performs the uploads and to be blocked is Flickr_upload_bot.
Magnus had a similar idea, a bot that performed transfers from (eg) Wikipedia to Commons. I asked him to disable it...
I kind of have a problem with this is in that it allows essentially anonymous uploads. At least in this case they are restricted to images from flickr with suitable licenses, that is better than totally anonymous, but still. What stops me putting the username 'Bryan' in and putting up whatever irrelevant, offensive, invasive, stupid images I can find on Flickr? oh... nothing.
It does. During the upload you will receive a token, which you must save to Commons. Then the bot will query Commons for the user who editted this page. It will only upload if if the username that has been given matches the username of the user who editted the page. So unless you know my password, the bot will refuse uploading under my name.
I think there's a good reason MediaWiki requires users to be logged in before uploading, and I don't think we should use bots that circumvent that requirement.
At the very least I think there should be a bot approval thing for this bot, where we can discuss as a community if we want to allow this kind of thing to happen.
It probably should. I will see whether everything works as expected, and will submit an approval request, explaining the full details of the security.
cheers Brianna user:pfctdayelise
Thank you for taking the time to think about this; I understand that the fact that any user can give a bot instruction sounds all alarm bells, but I think I have done enough to prevent massive unauthorized uploads.
Bryan
On 17/05/07, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
Now the second tool is really handy (imho ;P). It allows you to easily upload images from Flickr:
If you find any security bug in
the upload part, the bot that performs the uploads and to be blocked is Flickr_upload_bot.
Magnus had a similar idea, a bot that performed transfers from (eg) Wikipedia to Commons. I asked him to disable it...
I kind of have a problem with this is in that it allows essentially anonymous uploads. At least in this case they are restricted to images from flickr with suitable licenses, that is better than totally anonymous, but still. What stops me putting the username 'Bryan' in and putting up whatever irrelevant, offensive, invasive, stupid images I can find on Flickr? oh... nothing.
It does. During the upload you will receive a token, which you must save to Commons. Then the bot will query Commons for the user who editted this page. It will only upload if if the username that has been given matches the username of the user who editted the page. So unless you know my password, the bot will refuse uploading under my name.
That is very nifty. I didn't notice this second step, in fact. So sorry for jumping the gun and nice work after all. ;)
Prod Magnus. This method should be ok for Wikimedia transfers too.
It probably should. I will see whether everything works as expected, and will submit an approval request, explaining the full details of the security.
Some of the error messages could be more specific (e.g. 'no user exists by that name', 'your logged in user name doesn't match the one provided'). Also I don't suppose it can check if the image has already been transferred to Commons? (perhaps by a linksearch?)
Also, some way to check image pages that get created but never subsequently populated by an image might be cool. I made a couple attempting to test the tool. :)
Final note, it looks very pretty. and that's important. things that look technical and complicated make people unfamiliar with technology afraid and nervous. things that look simple and pretty inspire courage. :)
cheers, Brianna
I wrote a step-by-step description of what the bot does. I hope this clarifies a lot. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Flickr_upload_bot/step-by-step
Feel free to ask more. Cheers, Bryan
On 5/17/07, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
On 17/05/07, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
Now the second tool is really handy (imho ;P). It allows you to easily upload images from Flickr:
If you find any security bug in
the upload part, the bot that performs the uploads and to be blocked is Flickr_upload_bot.
Magnus had a similar idea, a bot that performed transfers from (eg) Wikipedia to Commons. I asked him to disable it...
I kind of have a problem with this is in that it allows essentially anonymous uploads. At least in this case they are restricted to images from flickr with suitable licenses, that is better than totally anonymous, but still. What stops me putting the username 'Bryan' in and putting up whatever irrelevant, offensive, invasive, stupid images I can find on Flickr? oh... nothing.
It does. During the upload you will receive a token, which you must save to Commons. Then the bot will query Commons for the user who editted this page. It will only upload if if the username that has been given matches the username of the user who editted the page. So unless you know my password, the bot will refuse uploading under my name.
That is very nifty. I didn't notice this second step, in fact. So sorry for jumping the gun and nice work after all. ;)
Prod Magnus. This method should be ok for Wikimedia transfers too.
It probably should. I will see whether everything works as expected, and will submit an approval request, explaining the full details of the security.
Some of the error messages could be more specific (e.g. 'no user exists by that name', 'your logged in user name doesn't match the one provided'). Also I don't suppose it can check if the image has already been transferred to Commons? (perhaps by a linksearch?)
Also, some way to check image pages that get created but never subsequently populated by an image might be cool. I made a couple attempting to test the tool. :)
Final note, it looks very pretty. and that's important. things that look technical and complicated make people unfamiliar with technology afraid and nervous. things that look simple and pretty inspire courage. :)
cheers, Brianna
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"Brianna Laugher" wrote on Thursday, May 17, 2007 5:07 AM:
On 17/05/07, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
Now the second tool is really handy (imho ;P). It allows you to easily upload images from Flickr:
If you find any security bug in
the upload part, the bot that performs the uploads and to be blocked is Flickr_upload_bot.
Magnus had a similar idea, a bot that performed transfers from (eg) Wikipedia to Commons. I asked him to disable it...
I kind of have a problem with this is in that it allows essentially anonymous uploads. At least in this case they are restricted to images from flickr with suitable licenses, that is better than totally anonymous, but still. What stops me putting the username 'Bryan' in and putting up whatever irrelevant, offensive, invasive, stupid images I can find on Flickr? oh... nothing.
What about using http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/flinfo.php instead?
Regards,
Flo