Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:07:59 +1000 From: "Brianna Laugher" brianna.laugher@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Two new tools for Flickr To: "Wikimedia Commons Discussion List" commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: d20d84ea0705162007r4cd29ba0kd38820d055c2b5b0@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 17/05/07, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
As you might, or might not know, I have been quite busy with Flickr lately, especially with [[User:FlickreviewR]]. I have written two tools (or actually, one tool with two functions) with helps Commons users with images for Flickr.
The first is a database of all images reviewed images from Flickr: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/flickr/browse You can
search on nsid,
username, photo_id, link, and Commons image. The database contains over 28,000 images, which is over 70% of the total number of Flickr images on Commons :) [1]
Whose username, Flickr or Commons? And if Commons is that reviewer or uploader or what? What is nsid? No search I tried actually returned any results. Bit more help, please?
Now the second tool is really handy (imho ;P). It allows
you to easily
upload images from Flickr:
If you find any security bug in
the upload part, the bot that performs the uploads and to
be blocked
is Flickr_upload_bot.
Magnus had a similar idea, a bot that performed transfers from (eg) Wikipedia to Commons. I asked him to disable it...
I kind of have a problem with this is in that it allows essentially anonymous uploads. At least in this case they are restricted to images from flickr with suitable licenses, that is better than totally anonymous, but still. What stops me putting the username 'Bryan' in and putting up whatever irrelevant, offensive, invasive, stupid images I can find on Flickr? oh... nothing.
I think there's a good reason MediaWiki requires users to be logged in before uploading, and I don't think we should use bots that circumvent that requirement.
At the very least I think there should be a bot approval thing for this bot, where we can discuss as a community if we want to allow this kind of thing to happen.
cheers Brianna user:pfctdayelise
The idea of a tool to help bring images over from flickr and put them on commons, properly tagged and with nice {{information}} templates filled in, is very attractive. However toolserver restrictions prevent tools from asking for passwords. That seems a bit of a conflict that will require some thought to get round. I agree with Briana that such uploads, even when done with tools, really ought to be verifiably associated with the real user, not with a bot ID.
I think we might want to try to look for ways to do this
AWB for instance gets around this by being client side, and requiring the user to log in. It's also heavily intertwined with windows machines, as it relys on .net and on IE services...
I wonder if there are other ways to do this that are platform independent but that do not require the user to give their commons password to a toolserver hosted tool...
Larry Pieniazek Work mail: lpieniaz at us.ibm.com Hobby mail: lar at miltontrainworks.com