Hoi, Blogger is the platform I use now for many years to blog about the subjects that are important in my appreciation of a Wiki world. At first I did not illustrate my blogposts but thanks to Pfctdayelise I started to pepper my blog posts with illustrations.
At this moment it is no longer possible for me to upload pictures to blogger. The message that I get is that I have to ensure that I have a license for the pictures that I upload. This is true for pictures that I have downloaded from Commons and cropped, it is for screen shots of the interaction with the Blogger user interface..
It is possible for me to get pictures displayed when I refer to the upload page of a Commons picture but that does me no good when it is a svg picture. Obviously I can download the picture and save it as an png ... but that does me no good.
There are several "solutions" to this problem. I can upload the png, I can use Wordpress instead. The obvious solution is for Google to get its act together.
The solution that I like best is for Commons to become a true repository of images that is not only intended for the illustration of Wikipedia and its sister projects but also for the illustration of blogs like mine. Commons is my first choice for illustrations for my blog but for some topics it just does not provide me with the illustration that I am looking for.
I think that Commons has already many images that are usable, what would be needed is just a different kind of pictures or more pictures that are grouped by subject and easier to find. Thanks, GerardM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Farsi.svg The svg I would like to use as a png http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-boost-for-mediawiki-localisa... blog post that needs an illustration
Hi, Can you describe your problem and the steps to reproduce it? It seems that Blogger doesn't support SVG images (you cannot use its uploader to upload a svg or to hotlink to one; you can of course edit the HTML of the post and hope for the best – it will not show the image in its wysywig editor if you do this but it should be fine after saving.) I can insert the PNG version of the image you mentioned by using the URL when you right click on the image on the file description page and choose "Copy image URL". Downloading and uploading the same PNG version also works fine for me.
Best regards, Bence
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi, Blogger is the platform I use now for many years to blog about the subjects that are important in my appreciation of a Wiki world. At first I did not illustrate my blogposts but thanks to Pfctdayelise I started to pepper my blog posts with illustrations.
At this moment it is no longer possible for me to upload pictures to blogger. The message that I get is that I have to ensure that I have a license for the pictures that I upload. This is true for pictures that I have downloaded from Commons and cropped, it is for screen shots of the interaction with the Blogger user interface..
It is possible for me to get pictures displayed when I refer to the upload page of a Commons picture but that does me no good when it is a svg picture. Obviously I can download the picture and save it as an png ... but that does me no good.
There are several "solutions" to this problem. I can upload the png, I can use Wordpress instead. The obvious solution is for Google to get its act together.
The solution that I like best is for Commons to become a true repository of images that is not only intended for the illustration of Wikipedia and its sister projects but also for the illustration of blogs like mine. Commons is my first choice for illustrations for my blog but for some topics it just does not provide me with the illustration that I am looking for.
I think that Commons has already many images that are usable, what would be needed is just a different kind of pictures or more pictures that are grouped by subject and easier to find. Thanks, GerardM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Farsi.svg The svg I would like to use as a png
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-boost-for-mediawiki-localisa... blog post that needs an illustration
Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
Hoi, When I try to upload a picture I get a screen that I uploaded as a screen shot to commons. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot-Blogger_in_draft-Words_and... Thanks. GerardM
On 16 August 2010 21:37, Bence Damokos bdamokos@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Can you describe your problem and the steps to reproduce it? It seems that Blogger doesn't support SVG images (you cannot use its uploader to upload a svg or to hotlink to one; you can of course edit the HTML of the post and hope for the best – it will not show the image in its wysywig editor if you do this but it should be fine after saving.) I can insert the PNG version of the image you mentioned by using the URL when you right click on the image on the file description page and choose "Copy image URL". Downloading and uploading the same PNG version also works fine for me.
Best regards, Bence
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Blogger is the platform I use now for many years to blog about the subjects that are important in my appreciation of a Wiki world. At first I did not illustrate my blogposts but thanks to Pfctdayelise I started to pepper my blog posts with illustrations.
At this moment it is no longer possible for me to upload pictures to blogger. The message that I get is that I have to ensure that I have a license for the pictures that I upload. This is true for pictures that I have downloaded from Commons and cropped, it is for screen shots of the interaction with the Blogger user interface..
It is possible for me to get pictures displayed when I refer to the upload page of a Commons picture but that does me no good when it is a svg picture. Obviously I can download the picture and save it as an png ... but that does me no good.
There are several "solutions" to this problem. I can upload the png, I can use Wordpress instead. The obvious solution is for Google to get its act together.
The solution that I like best is for Commons to become a true repository of images that is not only intended for the illustration of Wikipedia and its sister projects but also for the illustration of blogs like mine. Commons is my first choice for illustrations for my blog but for some topics it just does not provide me with the illustration that I am looking for.
I think that Commons has already many images that are usable, what would be needed is just a different kind of pictures or more pictures that are grouped by subject and easier to find. Thanks, GerardM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Farsi.svg The svg I would like to use as a png
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-boost-for-mediawiki-localisa... blog post that needs an illustration
Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
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Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, When I try to upload a picture I get a screen that I uploaded as a screen shot to commons. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot-Blogger_in_draft-Words_and... Thanks. GerardM
I don't think you can license that image as CC-BY for commons...
(On Windows at least, Blogger has a more subtle way of preventing you from using svg files.) I see on the blog that your problem was solved, finally; and as an upside it seems that there are built in links on the description pages of Commons for the PNG versions in many sizes.
Bence
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Bence Damokos bdamokos@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Can you describe your problem and the steps to reproduce it? It seems that Blogger doesn't support SVG images (you cannot use its uploader to upload a svg or to hotlink to one; you can of course edit the HTML of the post and hope for the best – it will not show the image in its wysywig editor if you do this but it should be fine after saving.) I can insert the PNG version of the image you mentioned by using the URL when you right click on the image on the file description page and choose "Copy image URL". Downloading and uploading the same PNG version also works fine for me.
Best regards, Bence
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Blogger is the platform I use now for many years to blog about the subjects that are important in my appreciation of a Wiki world. At first I did not illustrate my blogposts but thanks to Pfctdayelise I started to pepper my blog posts with illustrations.
At this moment it is no longer possible for me to upload pictures to blogger. The message that I get is that I have to ensure that I have a license for the pictures that I upload. This is true for pictures that I have downloaded from Commons and cropped, it is for screen shots of the interaction with the Blogger user interface..
It is possible for me to get pictures displayed when I refer to the upload page of a Commons picture but that does me no good when it is a svg picture. Obviously I can download the picture and save it as an png ... but that does me no good.
There are several "solutions" to this problem. I can upload the png, I can use Wordpress instead. The obvious solution is for Google to get its act together.
The solution that I like best is for Commons to become a true repository of images that is not only intended for the illustration of Wikipedia and its sister projects but also for the illustration of blogs like mine. Commons is my first choice for illustrations for my blog but for some topics it just does not provide me with the illustration that I am looking for.
I think that Commons has already many images that are usable, what would be needed is just a different kind of pictures or more pictures that are grouped by subject and easier to find. Thanks, GerardM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Farsi.svg The svg I would like to use as a png
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-boost-for-mediawiki-localisa... blog post that needs an illustration
Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
Hoi, The problem is not that I cannot use svg files, I cannot upload ANY files. My problem is not solved as I had to be told where I could find this pgn. This does not scale. Thanks, GerardM
On 16 August 2010 21:45, Bence Damokos bdamokos@gmail.com wrote:
(On Windows at least, Blogger has a more subtle way of preventing you from using svg files.) I see on the blog that your problem was solved, finally; and as an upside it seems that there are built in links on the description pages of Commons for the PNG versions in many sizes.
Bence
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Bence Damokos bdamokos@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Can you describe your problem and the steps to reproduce it? It seems that Blogger doesn't support SVG images (you cannot use its uploader to upload a svg or to hotlink to one; you can of course edit the HTML of the post and hope for the best – it will not show the image in its wysywig editor if you do this but it should be fine after saving.) I can insert the PNG version of the image you mentioned by using the URL when you right click on the image on the file description page and choose "Copy image URL". Downloading and uploading the same PNG version also works fine for me.
Best regards, Bence
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Blogger is the platform I use now for many years to blog about the subjects that are important in my appreciation of a Wiki world. At first I did not illustrate my blogposts but thanks to Pfctdayelise I started to pepper my blog posts with illustrations.
At this moment it is no longer possible for me to upload pictures to blogger. The message that I get is that I have to ensure that I have a license for the pictures that I upload. This is true for pictures that I have downloaded from Commons and cropped, it is for screen shots of the interaction with the Blogger user interface..
It is possible for me to get pictures displayed when I refer to the upload page of a Commons picture but that does me no good when it is a svg picture. Obviously I can download the picture and save it as an png ... but that does me no good.
There are several "solutions" to this problem. I can upload the png, I can use Wordpress instead. The obvious solution is for Google to get its act together.
The solution that I like best is for Commons to become a true repository of images that is not only intended for the illustration of Wikipedia and its sister projects but also for the illustration of blogs like mine. Commons is my first choice for illustrations for my blog but for some topics it just does not provide me with the illustration that I am looking for.
I think that Commons has already many images that are usable, what would be needed is just a different kind of pictures or more pictures that are grouped by subject and easier to find. Thanks, GerardM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Farsi.svg The svg I would like to use as a png
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-boost-for-mediawiki-localisa... blog post that needs an illustration
Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The problem is not that I cannot use svg files, I cannot upload ANY files. My problem is not solved as I had to be told where I could find this pgn. This does not scale. Thanks, GerardM
The way Flickr does things is a good comparison. They have a "share this" pulldown, with options to share by email, share by long or short url, and HTML and BBCode for various sizes.
If Commons did this, it could provide code for displaying PNG versions of SVG files in assorted sizes. And it could provide links back to Common and ideally license and attribution information as well, making it much easier to build momentum for best practices in using copyleft content.
( Here' s an example of a Flickr image with sharing options: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ragesoss/4895393350/ )
-Sage (User:Ragesoss)
Sage Ross, 16/08/2010 23:19:
The way Flickr does things is a good comparison. They have a "share this" pulldown, with options to share by email, share by long or short url, and HTML and BBCode for various sizes.
By the way, this was proposed (also) by Erik Moeller two years ago http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/31977 during a discussion on hotlinking http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/31919
Nemo
On 17 August 2010 03:30, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
Sage Ross, 16/08/2010 23:19:
The way Flickr does things is a good comparison. They have a "share this" pulldown, with options to share by email, share by long or short url, and HTML and BBCode for various sizes.
By the way, this was proposed (also) by Erik Moeller two years ago http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/31977 during a discussion on hotlinking http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/31919
Hotlinking is fine, and InstantCommons is really really nice and really usable.
The main problem for hotlinking is that the names at the WMF end are not stable. Fixing this would require software work to make stable hotlinking easy.
Then we can easily make the various linking texts available, presumably with the default including a link back to the Commons page.
- d.
David Gerard, 17/08/2010 10:44:
On 17 August 2010 03:30, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
By the way, this was proposed (also) by Erik Moeller two years ago http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/31977 during a discussion on hotlinking http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/31919
Hotlinking is fine, and InstantCommons is really really nice and really usable.
Yes, IstantCommons is great, but I wouldn't call it "really usable". We use it on http://www.wikimedia.it and we often have random errors like http://www.wikimedia.it/index.php/File:Failed_to_open_stream.png , especially with big images like those added here http://www.wikimedia.it/index.php/5_anni,_5_milioni_di_file_multimediali_su_... (obviously this is more frequent when the image scalers are busy; and looks like it's happening less frequently, lately, but I'm not sure).
Nemo
On 17 August 2010 10:25, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
David Gerard, 17/08/2010 10:44:
Hotlinking is fine, and InstantCommons is really really nice and really usable.
Yes, IstantCommons is great, but I wouldn't call it "really usable". We use it on http://www.wikimedia.it and we often have random errors like http://www.wikimedia.it/index.php/File:Failed_to_open_stream.png , especially with big images like those added here http://www.wikimedia.it/index.php/5_anni,_5_milioni_di_file_multimediali_su_... (obviously this is more frequent when the image scalers are busy; and looks like it's happening less frequently, lately, but I'm not sure).
I said it was really usable, I didn't say it was perfectly functional ;-) We use it on rationalwiki.org. Occasionally there are glitches where the local MediaWiki fails to correctly retrieve a file from Commons and the failure is cached for a while (up to an hour). But in general, it works well enough that we don't bother copying images to the local server at all. I heartily recommend InstantCommons to anyone with a MediaWiki installation, and should enable it on my work intranet ;-)
- d.
Hi,
Le lundi 16 août 2010 à 17:19 -0400, Sage Ross a écrit :
The way Flickr does things is a good comparison. They have a "share this" pulldown, with options to share by email, share by long or short url, and HTML and BBCode for various sizes.
If Commons did this, it could provide code for displaying PNG versions of SVG files in assorted sizes. And it could provide links back to Common and ideally license and attribution information as well, making it much easier to build momentum for best practices in using copyleft content.
Are you volunteering to code that feature? :)
There are a lot of things that would make Commons a lot more usable. Unfortunately, few people are interested in actually developing those features and improvements.
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Guillaume Paumier gpaumier@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
Le lundi 16 août 2010 à 17:19 -0400, Sage Ross a écrit :
The way Flickr does things is a good comparison. They have a "share this" pulldown, with options to share by email, share by long or short url, and HTML and BBCode for various sizes.
If Commons did this, it could provide code for displaying PNG versions of SVG files in assorted sizes. And it could provide links back to Common and ideally license and attribution information as well, making it much easier to build momentum for best practices in using copyleft content.
Are you volunteering to code that feature? :)
There are a lot of things that would make Commons a lot more usable. Unfortunately, few people are interested in actually developing those features and improvements.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inachis_io_qtl4.jpg?withJS=MediaWiki:...
Sincerely, One Of The Few (TM)
Magnus Manske wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Guillaume Paumier gpaumier@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
Le lundi 16 août 2010 à 17:19 -0400, Sage Ross a écrit :
The way Flickr does things is a good comparison. They have a "share this" pulldown, with options to share by email, share by long or short url, and HTML and BBCode for various sizes.
If Commons did this, it could provide code for displaying PNG versions of SVG files in assorted sizes. And it could provide links back to Common and ideally license and attribution information as well, making it much easier to build momentum for best practices in using copyleft content.
Are you volunteering to code that feature? :)
There are a lot of things that would make Commons a lot more usable. Unfortunately, few people are interested in actually developing those features and improvements.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inachis_io_qtl4.jpg?withJS=MediaWiki:...
Sincerely, One Of The Few (TM)
I would place it below the image, not above. Otherwise, I like it. Have you thought on offering a bbcode version (eg. with a radio button)?
On 28 September 2010 22:10, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inachis_io_qtl4.jpg?withJS=MediaWiki:...
Sincerely, One Of The Few (TM)
Magnus, you are if anything the All. It's marvellous! :-)
I suppose the way to go from here would be to figure out where best to put it - underneath, with the full resolution link, or in the bar across the top above the image?
Or both :-)
Op 29 sep 2010, om 01:07 heeft Andrew Gray het volgende geschreven:
On 28 September 2010 22:10, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inachis_io_qtl4.jpg?withJS=MediaWiki:...
Sincerely, One Of The Few (TM)
Magnus, you are if anything the All. It's marvellous! :-)
I suppose the way to go from here would be to figure out where best to put it - underneath, with the full resolution link, or in the bar across the top above the image?
--
- Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
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I put it in the top bar for now. It looked a little lost there, so I threw some <b> around it; besides uploading and editing, we probably have more customers interested in reusing files.
I'll also have a look into BBcode, and maybe InstantCommons Wikilink?
Cheers, Magnus
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Krinkle krinklemail@gmail.com wrote:
Or both :-)
Op 29 sep 2010, om 01:07 heeft Andrew Gray het volgende geschreven:
On 28 September 2010 22:10, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inachis_io_qtl4.jpg?withJS=MediaWiki:...
Sincerely, One Of The Few (TM)
Magnus, you are if anything the All. It's marvellous! :-)
I suppose the way to go from here would be to figure out where best to put it - underneath, with the full resolution link, or in the bar across the top above the image?
--
- Andrew Gray
andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
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On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
I put it in the top bar for now. It looked a little lost there, so I threw some <b> around it; besides uploading and editing, we probably have more customers interested in reusing files.
I like the previous position better. Perhaps we can combine it with other interesting things like "Download in different sizes" and "Use in Wikimedia wiki"?
Bryan
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
I put it in the top bar for now. It looked a little lost there, so I threw some <b> around it; besides uploading and editing, we probably have more customers interested in reusing files.
I like the previous position better. Perhaps we can combine it with other interesting things like "Download in different sizes" and "Use in Wikimedia wiki"?
Now trying a button floating over the left side of the top bar. Looks weird though.
Also, now Wikimedia/InstantCommons code for thumbs and full image.
And download links, several sizes + original.
Cheers, Magnus
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
I put it in the top bar for now. It looked a little lost there, so I threw some <b> around it; besides uploading and editing, we probably have more customers interested in reusing files.
I like the previous position better. Perhaps we can combine it with other interesting things like "Download in different sizes" and "Use in Wikimedia wiki"?
Now trying a button floating over the left side of the top bar. Looks weird though.
Also, now Wikimedia/InstantCommons code for thumbs and full image.
And download links, several sizes + original.
Cheers, Magnus
And now with "email link"!
I'd hate for this script to wither and die in this email thread, so if anyone's willing to push for default inclusion...
Cheers, Magnus
Hoi, I asked for something and I love the result. Having a tool that helps us share our pictures is an important tool to make people aware about Commons as a source of material that is there to be used. Used outside of Wikipedia.
I blogged about this and I changed the provided link to this YAC (yet another critter). The one thing many Commoners will like that this helps me give the credit where credit is due. This is in my opinion a feature that we should promote as much as possible because it provides the best argument to upload to Commons; it is used and you are credited. Thanks, GerardM
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/09/using-wikimedia-commons-for-stoc...
On 29 September 2010 18:58, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.comwrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
I put it in the top bar for now. It looked a little lost there, so I threw some <b> around it; besides uploading and editing, we probably have more customers interested in reusing files.
I like the previous position better. Perhaps we can combine it with other interesting things like "Download in different sizes" and "Use in Wikimedia wiki"?
Now trying a button floating over the left side of the top bar. Looks weird though.
Also, now Wikimedia/InstantCommons code for thumbs and full image.
And download links, several sizes + original.
Cheers, Magnus
And now with "email link"!
I'd hate for this script to wither and die in this email thread, so if anyone's willing to push for default inclusion...
Cheers, Magnus
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