With all respect to those affected concerns were raised about inactive Admins on various community pages in March & April. Discussion on the policy started in May and was advertised on the Village pump and the Admin board. The vote when it took place was also advertised similarly.
I guess it surprises me that people who consider themselves active do not watch such pages. Equally be signing up to request retaining the rights they retain the rights for six months at least. My fervent hope would be that they again become active admins on Commons however the only way they would not have known about the discussion is because they rarely read community pages on Commons.
Herby
On 8/12/07, Herby herbythyme@fmail.co.uk wrote:
With all respect to those affected concerns were raised about inactive Admins on various community pages in March & April. Discussion on the policy started in May and was advertised on the Village pump and the Admin board. The vote when it took place was also advertised similarly.
And yet only 33 people voted or commented at all.
I guess it surprises me that people who consider themselves active do not watch such pages. Equally be signing up to request retaining the rights they retain the rights for six months at least. My fervent hope would be that they again become active admins on Commons however the only way they would not have known about the discussion is because they rarely read community pages on Commons.
Yes, I rarely read community pages on Commons. I rarely and certainly don't reliably read community pages on en.wikipedia either, and I'm an Arbcom member and long-standing admin there. Frankly, I find them tedious in the extreme, and largely filled with endless re-hashing of disagreements of no interest to me.
Neither board is a place just for important announcements, as far as I an tell.
-Matt
On 8/13/07, Herby herbythyme@fmail.co.uk wrote:
With all respect to those affected concerns were raised about inactive Admins on various community pages in March & April. Discussion on the policy started in May and was advertised on the Village pump and the Admin board. The vote when it took place was also advertised similarly.
I got sysoped in **August 2006** , and even then, there was an desysopping by inactivity policy
I fail to see why people are making such a big deal of this. Adminship is not a badge of rank, but a set of tools. If you need them have them; if you don't, don't. If you have no interest in doing administrative work on Commons, holding Commons adminship is potentially harmful - as another user may approach you requesting admin help.
Commons RfA is ridiculously simple to pass in any case - its not like the freak show that en.wikipedia RfA is. Given that if you decide you want the sysop bit back after all a full RfA is not a big deal (or may not even be required http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_not... ).
As far as I know there has always been an inactivity policy, this has merely crystallised it. Due to taking a wiki-break I was not involved in the promulgation of this policy, but I was aware it was ongoing. Personally, there is only ONE issue I have with the exact phrasing. That is not all admin actions are logged, the policy is not about all admin actions but all *logged* admin actions.
Access to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete is useful in cases like: An image is deleted on Commons as copyrighted. However, it is used on en.wiki where it would have a solid fair use claim. A commons admin can grab the deleted picture and re-upload with minimal effort; but a non-admin would have to jump through a number of hoops first. This issue is more valid in reverse, as being able to see the original en.wp page of a Commons image is frequently useful in resolving sourcing issues.
Fundamentally however, I agree with Delphine's point. If you don't care for Commons adminship - let it lapse, you won't miss it. If you do care for it, delete a few images from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unknown. You will no longer be "at risk", and you will have helped the more active Commons admins with a major backlog.
Nilfanion