Hi all,
I am forwarding the below conversation to commons-l so it's known for
the record that I've warned the webmaster of
DifferenceBetween.net
about their copyright violations. Less than a day after they got my
email, they removed Ouda's image from
http://www.differencebetween.net/science/health/difference-between-crunches…
. We will see if the webmaster adds caption lines for all other
infringing images, like the image in
http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-cellular-respir…
which is a copy of the dual CC-BY-SA/GFDL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Simple_photosynthesis_overview.svg.
If the webmaster doesn't, the next step is for us to send a variation
on
http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Standard_license_violation_letter#Follo…
and maybe to add a warning that we will contact his web hosting
provider (whois indicates that it's probably
1and1.com). Actually, do
you think it's fine to add such a warning, or better not to?
Forwarded conversation follows.
Cheers,
--[[en:user:unforgettableid]]
Forwarded conversation
Subject: Dear
DifferenceBetween.net: international copyright law says
you must provide attribution on all non-PD images you have copied from
Wikimedia Commons
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From: unforgettableid <unforgettableid(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:55 AM
To: contact(a)differencebetween.net, proxy1793534(a)1and1-private-registration.com
Cc: Wikimedia Commons public mailing list
<commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>, Mohamed Mostafa Ouda
<mmustafa8(a)gmail.com>
cc: Wikimedia Commons public mailing list
Dear
DifferenceBetween.net staff,
You write on your About page[1], "Images used in our site are either
public domain images obtained from
wikimedia.org or photos taken by
us." We at Wikimedia Commons appreciate that you mention
wikimedia.org on your About page. But that is not enough. And in
fact, most of the images on
wikimedia.org are not public domain. It
is only legal to reuse such images if you follow certain rules.
Let's look at an example image. A search at
www.tineye.com shows that
"Difference Between Crunches and Sit ups"[2] reuses an image[3] made
by Mohamed Ouda[4]. He made it himself[4] and released it under the
Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported (CC-BY-SA-3.0)
license[5]. The image description page[3] says that if you reuse the
image, "You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the
author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse
you or your use of the work)." In other words, Mr. Ouda has said that
in order to reuse the image he made, you must follow his conditions.
International copyright law requires it, and common courtesy requires
it as well.
It seems to me from various articles[6][7][8] on the Creative Commons
(CC) and Wikimedia Commons sites that the proper way to provide
attribution for a CC-BY-SA-3.0-licensed image like Mr. Ouda's is to
include a one-line photo credit where you use the image, such as:
Mohamed Ouda / CC-BY-SA-3.0
The proper way to provide attribution is a bit different[7][8] if you
reuse images with other CC licenses, like CC-BY-SA-2.5 or CC-BY-3.0.
It is quite different[7][8] if you reuse images released only under
the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) or another non-CC license.
1. Do you have any questions?
2. Are you ready to start providing attribution on all new images you
copy from Wikimedia Commons to your site?
3. Are you ready to start going through all the old images you have
copied from Wikimedia Commons and start providing attribution?
www.tineye.com may help you find the source locations for images you
have already copied.
Please "Reply to All"; otherwise, it will appear to many of us as if
you did not reply at all.
Kind regards,
--Unforgettableid
^ [1].
http://www.differencebetween.net/about/
^ [2].
http://www.differencebetween.net/science/health/difference-between-crunches…
^ [3].
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Crunch.gif
^ [4].
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mohamed_Ouda
^ [5].
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en
^ [6].
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative…
^ [7].
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Credit_line
^ [8].
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia
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From: Difference Between <contact(a)differencebetween.net>
Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:21 PM
To: unforgettableid <unforgettableid(a)gmail.com>
Cc: proxy1793534(a)1and1-private-registration.com, Wikimedia Commons
public mailing list <commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>, Mohamed Mostafa
Ouda <mmustafa8(a)gmail.com>
Hi,
Thank you for pointing out the mistake.
We will definitely give attribution to those images that are not in
Public domain. At the beginning we thought all the images available
on wikimedia is on Public Domain.
But at one point we learnt not all of them are in Public Domain and
chose only the Public domain images.
We will go through all the images and make sure those images that are
not in Public domain will be attributed.
Thanks
DifferenceBetween.net
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